Sony Takes 10% of U.S. Retail Market
Palm Inc. still has the lion's share of the U.S. retail market with approximately 50%, according to NDP Intelect as quoted by Cnet. While still a dominant position, this is a lower percentage than the company has enjoyed in the past. Near the end of last year, Palm had over 70% of the market.
Palm's loss is its licensee's gain. In recent weeks, Handspring share of the retail market has been hovering 20% and 30%, which is a better showing than they have made in the past.
Sony, who in the past few months has been moving aggressively into the U.S. retail market, has seen its share rise from just 3% to approximately 10% on the strength of the three handheld models it has released in recent months.
The remaining share of the market is taken up by Pocket PC models and other, proprietary operating systems.
One of the main reasons Palm and Handspring have continued their lock on retail sales is the popularity of their low-end models. For example, only 20% of Palm's unit sales are for the m500 series, its high-end models. This seems to show that, in retail anyway, customers are cost conscious and a large majority aren't willing to spring for a higher-priced model.
Handspring has working to shore up its share of the market by cutting its prices. Last month, Handspring dropped the prices on almost its entire range of models.
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PocketPC marketshare?
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thanks ed. keep it up.
Do the math
Hardly a swell of support for PocketPC, especially considering that the number includes a lot of non-PocketPC machines.
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Translated,
"I'd rather be ignorant, and I'd rather die as the ignorant".
Open your eyes. Palm is no comparison to PocketPC. Sure if you want to spend $100 on low-end PDA, go ahead, get m100. But if you're spending $300 for any Palm PDA, your ignorance will not serve you any good.
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doesn't want his readers to know PocketPC is kicking the Palm platform's ass!
Interesting take on the situation. Let's see: All the PocketPC manufacturers on the planet, added up together, command no more than 20% of the PDA market share. Handspring, all by itself, has between 20 and 30%.
Someone's getting their collective asses kicked, but it doesn't seem to be Palm.
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What an ignorant thing to write... Sure, some high-end Palms are over-priced, but not all. The Clie N610C is a damn good buy. For $320 (street price), you get:
- 320x320, 16-bit screen
- bright backlighting... image is excellent under all lighting conditions
- expansion slot
- small and lightweight (5.6 oz)
- excellent battery life
- form factor that makes one-handed operation comfortable
- thoughtful details like a cradle power supply that can be used as portable charger and a well designed cover
> Ha! Ed's afraid to post anything regarding PocketPC. He doesn't want his readers to know PocketPC is kicking the Palm platform's ass!
That's FUD. PocketPC is doing well (finally), but Palm is still outselling it. It doesn't really matter... both platforms have strengths and weaknesses. Figure out your needs and choose accordingly. Immature, whiny, exaggeratory posts like yours are useless (whether they come from CE zealots or Palm fanatics).
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At any rate, I think this entire Palm vs PPC debate is being driven by a slice of current Palm owners who have been waiting to upgrade and are undecided about what their next step will be: Palm again or a leap (of faith?) to PPC?
My Palm is half-dead. About two weeks ago, it took a plunge out of my shirt pocket -- unlike past times, this time the screen cracked. It is now equivalent to a Casio Pocket Viewer. I can read what's in it, but I can't add to it. And the screen is so badly cracked, only parts of it work.
Obviously, I need a new machine. Will I go with a CLIE? Or how about the Toshiba GENIO? Or maybe that new HP 56x? None of these choices existed at the start of this year. We Palm owners could ignore the iPaqers, just based on size arguments alone.
But now there's a PPC that is no larger than a Palm III. And now there's also a Palm (CLIE) that is smaller than a Palm III (yes, I know the Vs were around -- but I loathed those). Great color screens. Very appealing form factors. Both (GENIO and CLIE) more powerful than past Palm devices.
I think many other people are struggling with a similar decision. Hence the heightened debate recently.
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That's what I paid at dell.com (it was on sale).
> Perhaps he means Net price.
I use the terms interchangeably (most people I know consider street price and net price to be the same). However, to be more specific, I paid $320 "net price".
On a related topic, I went to dinner Saturday night with a large group of people (mostly programmers) who were friends of a friend (so I only knew a few of them).
I pulled my Clie N610C out of my pocket to write down a phone number and they were all mucho impressed. As it turns out, some of them owned IPAQs (purchased by their companies), but none of them had their IPAQ with them because they said they're too bulky to carry around. They loved holding the Clie and said it was significantly smaller then the IPAQ (even without the exapnsion sleeve).
I've used the IPAQ too and don't think it's *that much* larger than the Clie, but for some people it's bigger enough to make the difference between carrying it in your pocket or leaving it at home (obviously, other people don't mind carrying a larger unit).
So, dimensions and weight don't tell the whole story... despite being only 1/2 oz lighter, the Clie's shape is much more ergonomic than the IPAQ and the Clie fits in a pocket a lot more comfortably.
Anyway, like I wrote, both platforms have advantages and disadvantages... figure out your needs and choose what's appropriate. Enough of this silly holy war.
Wrong?
More accurate data here:
http://www.forbes.com/2001/09/07/0907palm.html?partner=yahoo&referrer=
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"Right now the game is Palm's to lose. Combine all the devices that use the Palm operating system together, including Handspring's (nasdaq: HAND - news - people) Visor line and Sony's (nyse: SNE - news - people) Clie, among others, and you're talking about 69% of the worldwide handheld market, compared to 17% for PocketPC, according to market research firm IDC, Framingham, Mass"
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I ain't rich. . .
Relatively low cost (i.e., under $300, closer to $200)
Durability like a cell phone
Light weight
“Reasonable” good looks
RE: I ain't rich. . .
Sorry, but my IIIx still functions, does all I need it to, has plenty of expansion options (tons of after-market add-ons), etc. Why should I upgrade? In a year or so, when color, high-res and the advantages of the memory slots shake out, then perhaps I might just buy a new one. Until then... no chance.
The IIIx I have has served me well for the past 2+ years.
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