Sony Drops Price of N760C by $50

Posted By: Ed Thursday, December 6, 2001 12:19:46 PM

The price of the Sony PEG-N760C has dropped from $500 to $450. The new price is available now. Sony never announces price cuts or gives reasons for them so it isn't known why. Sony might simply be feeling some price pressure, as the N760C was the most expensive Palm OS model by $100. The slowdown in the world economy has forced other manufacturers to try to increase demand by lowering costs and Sony might be in the same condition.

Also, this model has been out for several months and it might simply be time for a price cut. The N760C is essentially a N710C with an updated version of the Palm OS and the N710C was announced in May, so this handheld has been priced at $500 for over seven months. That's a long time for a model to hold the same price.

It is a long shot but Sony might have made this change to pave the way to replace the N760C with a new version. This could be a member of the T series with built-in MP3 playback or simply an update with more RAM. Sony's new T600, announced in Japan last month, has 16 MB of RAM built-in and the N760C's 8 MB of RAM is starting to look out of date for the company's top of the line product.

This is not the only price reduction Sony has made recently. In November, it dropped the N610C by $50, too.

The N760C includes Palm OS 4.1 and its screen has 16-bit color. It has a built-in audio player so it can play music in both MP3 and ATRAC3 formats. It comes with an external control wand and clip-on headphones to make listening to music easier. Of course it has a Memory Stick slot and comes with an 8 MB Memory Stick.

Sony has some holiday-related specials for this model, too. Sony is offering a free 32 MB Memory Stick and a leather case. These deals are good through January 9.

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The ''T615'' is near?!

mikecane @ 12/6/2001 12:32:18 PM #
Would they actually price a thinner color unit *w/o* MP3 higher than the N760C? Or is something else going on here?

Is this an indication the economy is so bad we are seeing deflation?

RE: The ''T615'' is near?!
I.M. Anonymous @ 12/6/2001 12:44:39 PM #
what makes you think that all current Palm is NOT over-priced? This is not deflation but stop price gouging.

RE: The ''T615'' is near?!
mikecane @ 12/6/2001 12:49:10 PM #
You have a point there too.

RE: The ''T615'' is near?!
I.M. Anonymous @ 12/6/2001 1:04:53 PM #
"Deflation" refers to an OVERALL lowering of prices. Some markets will often experience deflation of prices - witness what's happened in the desktop market. If you want clear evidence as to why Sony did this, look at the post referring to increased sales of the Vx. Palm is trying to dump inventory and lowered the price significantly. Sales went sky-high, and people are buying Palm units while avoiding Sonys. Sony had to do this with the 610 and 760 to keep up, or lose marketshare.

m525 and C-T615 is coming soon!
I.M. Anonymous @ 12/6/2001 6:40:20 PM #
Get ready for built-in Bluetooth, 32MB Native RAM, Brilliant Super Hi-Res 320x320 Brilliant Color Screen, Soft Graffiti, 66MHZ "Super" Dragonball, Super-thin form factor, new longer lasting Super-LiPoly Batteries and new, improved OS 4.5!!!!!

Merry Christmas to all, and to all a good night!!!

RE: The ''T615'' is near?!
I.M. Anonymous @ 12/6/2001 9:09:24 PM #
I wonder if the price cut means that the T615 is really coming. Judging from Sony's prior history, every time before a new Clie comes out, there's invariably a price drop in the existing models. Could this be the real reason for the price drop?? Let's hope it is. I can't wait to get my T615!!!

RE: The ''T615'' is near?!
I.M. Anonymous @ 1/13/2002 8:59:39 PM #
The new CLIE T615 (English version) is already selling in Singapore! Check out below:

http://vaio-online.sony.com/sg/clie/index.html

It's about US$380. I'm really surprised as I thought it would at least get launched in US first, I was seriously considering the Jap version prior to this news.

RE: The ''T615'' is near?!
Ed @ 1/13/2002 9:45:35 PM #
You can read more about this here:
www.palminfocenter.com/view_Story.asp?ID=2829

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It's just a competitive price cut

I.M. Anonymous @ 12/6/2001 1:17:06 PM #
As much as I'd like to see a 16MB unit, or thin T series version, this is most likely just a response to price cuts by Palm and Handspring. The features of the N760 could justify a bit higher price, but there is a limit on how much more people are willing to pay. The price of the M505 just dropped $50. Sony is just keeping their prices in line.

RE: It's just a competitive price cut
I.M. Anonymous @ 12/6/2001 5:27:59 PM #
Finally! Someone who has some education in business and economics!

RE: It's just a competitive price cut
I.M. Anonymous @ 12/7/2001 8:12:34 AM #
Yes, and I'm a bit surprised this person hasn't been flamed or lambasted for being a "dumbass," "Palm apologist," or "loser." I'm also surprised no one's bothered to start bashing the Treo in ANOTHER thread.

The pro-Sony trolls must be falling down on the job...

N760C is a FLOP!

I.M. Anonymous @ 12/6/2001 1:15:26 PM #
As some wise soul commented in http://www.palminfocenter.com/view_Story.asp?ID=2719&MODE=FLAT#28961

> If Palm is cutting the price on the M125 this soon,
> that's a good sign that its not selling well at all.
> Not surprising, given its lack of features.
> Same old story.

And I thought it was so [Sarcasm]Insightful[/sarcasm] that I thought I'd mention this fine, sterling example of logic here.

What's good for the goose is good for the gander, you bunch of memory (fu*k)sticks.

RE: N760C is a FLOP!
I.M. Anonymous @ 12/6/2001 1:51:28 PM #
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RE: N760C is a FLOP!
Foo @ 12/6/2001 2:30:31 PM #
Troll troll troll your boat gently down the stream.

RE: N760C is a FLOP!
I.M. Anonymous @ 12/6/2001 3:03:24 PM #
Norton AntiTroll? WTF?

Go and get a life.

RE: N760C is a FLOP!
I.M. Anonymous @ 12/6/2001 3:21:33 PM #
The m125 was just released about 3 months ago, the N710/N760 has been out for 7 months. Its an unrelateable argument...

RE: N760C is a FLOP!
I.M. Anonymous @ 12/6/2001 8:38:39 PM #
This is so FUBU!

RE: N760C is a FLOP!
I.M. Anonymous @ 12/7/2001 11:28:19 PM #
Sony is probably making most of their money in Japan. The S320 is already past, and these high end models don't sell in enough quantity to make a decent profit. Without some product, marketing and support changes they'll probably be out of the PDA market by Q3 next year.

RE: N760C is a FLOP!
I.M. Anonymous @ 12/8/2001 12:05:25 AM #
Hi Mr IM up there, are you an ANALyst, Market researcher or do you work in Sony that's why you have a copy of their balance sheet? How do you know they are not making any money ?? LoL

It's funny how everybody position themselves as the Mr knowitall on the web.

Let me try :) hehe Accroding to the current situation, looks like Handspring will be out of the PDA business about 2-3 times faster than Sony. Because accrding to reports handspring never really made any money from day one till now. And they are betting their future on Tero, a mono, no expansion PDA/Phone device.

According to news Danger (danger.com) is going to come up with a new Wireless device, pretty much like treo (function wise) but with better design and it got a built in camera. Will that device from Danger kick Tero's ass ?? no one knows

Please, Ed - Feel free to make more excuses for Sony.

I.M. Anonymous @ 12/6/2001 1:23:56 PM #
When Palm drops a $250 machine to $200, Ed Says:

<<The m125 debuted in late September so this is a rather quick drop in price. Even at its release, many thought it was a bit over priced compared to models with similar features, like the Sony S320 or Visor Pro.>>

When Sony realizes that it's screwed all the early adoptors it can find, and lowers it's machine from the insane price of $500 to the just ridiculous price of $450, Ed says:

<<Sony might simply be feeling some price pressure, as the N760C was the most expensive Palm OS model by $100. The slowdown in the world economy has forced other manufacturers to try to increase demand by lowering costs and Sony might be in the same condition.>>

Fine - When Palm lowers the price of one of it's middle-level machines, that's a pointer to an obvious flaw. When Sony lowers it's flagship device by the same amount, it's just an indicator of a poor economy.

Which one is it, Ed? You can't have your cake and fling it at Palm, too.


RE: Please, Ed - Feel free to make more excuses for Sony.
I.M. Anonymous @ 12/6/2001 1:36:08 PM #
I do think there is a difference between dropping the price of a $250 unit and a $500 unit by $50 each. But that's nothing even remotely conclusive and I am not going to bother to read anything into these price cuts. Just be happy. If you like the m125 or 760, then go get one, if you don't, then keep your mirth to yourself. :P

Caught in the Middle
Ed @ 12/6/2001 1:50:07 PM #
Funny, when I wrote a quite positive review of the m125, people wrote in to tell me how wrong I was. And when I say something negative about the m125, I get accused of being a Palm-hater. * sigh * Just a reminder, there's no pleasing everyone.

I still think there's a big difference between reducing the price of a product two months after it was released and reducing it seven months after its release. Your opinion is obviously different.

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RE: Please, Ed - Feel free to make more excuses for Sony.
Scott @ 12/6/2001 1:51:02 PM #
In Ed's defense, you have all the information you need to draw the correct conclusions from his quotes, yet you can't seem to do that.

The m125 was released in late September at $250. Just over 2 months later, the price was lowered by $50 (20%).

The 760C was released in May at $500. Over 6 months later, it was lowered by the same amount ($50), but a much lower percentage (10%).

Ed's arguments seem perfectly reasonable to me. Any way you slice it, all the Palm OS manufacturers seem to have products at appropriate price points now and the PPC manufacturers will have a very un-merry Xmas, IMO.

Scott


Palm m125 doesn't even wroth $199
I.M. Anonymous @ 12/6/2001 3:36:37 PM #
In my opinion, the reasonable price of Palm m125 will be around $129, the price after dropped is even $30 more than Clie S320.

Who will pay $30 more to buy m125 to get:
-- smaller screen
-- crappy backlight
-- old design (when was the time m100 came out??)


I can't see any valueable point of Palm m125 at this price.


RE: Please, Ed - Feel free to make more excuses for Sony.
Coyote67 @ 12/6/2001 3:45:04 PM #
Gotta go with ED on this one. Its natural for Sony to lower the price on the 760, longer a product is out, less people will want to get it eventually. Plus, Sony is releasing two new products soon. Thats going to really take up warehouse space. I suspect, just like their holiday give away thing, that they are getting a little less profit from the device and in the end saving money on warehouse costs.

Gotta look at it like this....Sony is not out to save you money. They wouldn't lower the price unless there was something in it for them. No company will lower the price of a product if its doing well. Thats just stupid. You lower the price of a well selling product to get less money..... I think not

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RE: Please, Ed - Feel free to make more excuses for Sony.
I.M. Anonymous @ 12/6/2001 9:31:31 PM #
If you don't agree with Ed's opinion go find yourself another site. -- And stop visiting PIC!!!

RE: Please, Ed - Feel free to make more excuses for Sony.
TDS @ 12/7/2001 12:21:35 AM #
Slightly off topic, but how can someone who always has such insightful and well though out comments (Coyote67) always have such annoying signatures? For goodness sakes! "My god...Becky...Look at her Prism" was better than this one!

:)

Doug

RE: Please, Ed - Feel free to make more excuses for Sony.
I.M. Anonymous @ 12/7/2001 8:08:53 AM #
<<"If you don't agree with Ed's opinion go find yourself another site. -- And stop visiting PIC!!!"<<

Yeah, right. Anyone's entitled to disagree with an opinion, although I think Ed's response exposes a lot of hypocrisy that's flung about. Either way, do you really want all the posts to essentially be "You're right, Ed," "Absolutely, Ed," "I agree, Ed?" That would get REALLY boring. You must be a Rush Limbaugh listener...

RE: Please, Ed - Feel free to make more excuses for Sony.
mikecane @ 12/7/2001 12:06:42 PM #
Rush Limbaugh isn't even a Rush Limbaugh listener...

RE: Please, Ed - Feel free to make more excuses for Sony.
Coyote67 @ 12/7/2001 2:34:51 PM #
TDS- Jeez man, how can you say that. Ever see fightclub? <Proceeds to shake his head> Any reference to anything fightclub is pure gold. On a side note, I'm opening up my own website, www.howIannoypeoplewithmysignatures.com The site will consist of just a link to this page with a frame ontop containing porn banners. Look for me soon on slashdot :)

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RE: Please, Ed - Feel free to make more excuses for Sony.
I.M. Anonymous @ 12/8/2001 4:01:06 AM #
The N770C dropped to £349 from £399 in the UK on the 23rd of November. This is more to compete with m505 in the UK. In my stores, you show the customer the m505 and then you show the clie with hi-res support, and they're sold instantly to the clié

Thanks for the heads up

I.M. Anonymous @ 12/6/2001 2:01:05 PM #
A friend of mine was ready to purchase the N610, as it seemed to be a good deal[to him] at $350. Now this makes things interesting as he contemplating purchasing the N760.

Thanks again for the info; That's one of the reasons I visit PIC every day.

If the M505 had 320*320 hires LCD... What happened??

I.M. Anonymous @ 12/6/2001 3:03:44 PM #
????

RE: If the M505 had 320*320 hires LCD... What happened??
Coyote67 @ 12/6/2001 3:44:36 PM #
Huh? In french please.

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RE: If the M505 had 320*320 hires LCD... What happened??
I.M. Anonymous @ 12/6/2001 4:40:39 PM #
And that will be "CLIE PEG-NM505C" with Memory Stick support.

RE: If the M505 had 320*320 hires LCD... What happened??
I.M. Anonymous @ 12/6/2001 6:29:50 PM #
No, it will be the CLIE PEG-s640NM505CMA1661-S
Get your info straight.

RE: If the M505 had 320*320 hires LCD... What happened??
Coyote67 @ 12/7/2001 2:37:32 PM #
Addons will come out to support this amazing device such as the ever important credit card holder case, the always needed flag matching replacement cases and the increasingly important washer dryer set with of course...memory stick slots. Sadly, these devices will not work with anything but this model or a ford pinto.

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