Palm Must Put Down $50 Mil. Bond in Xerox Case
In late December, a judge ruled against Palm and 3Com, saying that Graffiti does infringe on a patent Xerox holds on a handwriting recognition method, called Unistrokes. Though the case is being appealed, the two companies have been required to put down a $50 million bond. Should Xerox win that appeal, the bond "will ensure that Xerox is able to collect at least some, if not all, of the damages it will suffer as a result of 3Com's infringement during the appeal period," wrote Judge Michael Telesca, U.S. District Court for the Western District of New York.
The bond will be returned if Palm wins its appeal.
The judge denied Xerox's motion for an injunction that would have prevented Palm from selling its handhelds during the appeal period, saying Xerox would not be irreparably harmed if sales continue.
The judge also rejected Xerox' effort to set a trial date to determine damages Xerox claims it is owed. Calling the latter motion "premature," the court noted that Palm's appeal of the decision is still pending.
There isn't much info on what the total of damages could be, because, as mentioned above, the portion of the case that would determine that hasn't been held yet. The comment from Judge Telesca that $50 million will cover "some, if not all, of the damages" is the best indication available of what the ruling might be.
Though $50 isn't chump change, having to put this money aside won't empty Palm's cash reserves. According to a Securities and Exchange Commission (SEC) filing at the end of its last fiscal quarter, the company's cash and cash equivalents equaled $242 million.
Palm is trying to downplay the importance of Graffiti. Eric Benhamou, chairman and CEO of Palm, said, "Numerous handwriting-recognition technologies have long been available, some costing pennies per unit. Graffiti is only a tiny fraction of the software experience that drives the existing 21 million Palm Powered products."
According to 3Com, though it is named in the suit, Palm is entirely responsible for paying any damages. It said in a recent filing with the SEC, "In connection with Palm's separation from 3Com, Palm agreed to indemnify and hold 3Com harmless for any damages or losses, which might arise out of the Xerox litigation."
In April 1997, Xerox sued U.S. Robotics, later acquired by 3Com, on the grounds that the Graffiti handwriting recognition technology infringed a Xerox patent received on Jan. 21, 1997, U.S. Patent No. 5,596,656. The technology in question, known as Unistrokes, was invented at Xerox's Palo Alto Research Center.
Palm maintains that it does not infringe the Xerox patent and that the patent is invalid. "We intend to pursue our appeal vigorously and have excellent arguments to support our view," said Mr. Benhamou. "For thousands of years, people have been creating writing symbols. Xerox doesn't own the alphabet.
Thanks to montyburns for the tip. -Ed
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RE: A bond?
RE: A bond?
Still, it has been said before, Grafitti has been around since 94 when it was used on the Newton ... which predates the Xerox Patent. However, I seem to recall that patent protection is somehow valid from the date the patent is submitted (eg "Patent Pending").
When it comes down to it, this type of technology for input could probably be traced back even further to a University PhD disertation topic in the CHI (Computer Human Interaction) area.
At what point do you stop? Cave paintings in the south of France??
RE: A bond?
RE: A bond?
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Sir Tez
IT is a rough life
RE: A bond?
Concerns about Palm and the OS
Is there nothing to be concerned about until this all comes to pass?
Thanks Ed.
RE: Concerns about Palm and the OS
Industry analysts, who hopefully know what they are talking about, seem to see Palm coming out of its difficulties. Last quarter the company lost 6 cents per share. The consensus estimate for the current quarter is that it will lose 4 cents per share and the following quarter just 2 cents.
Even if worse comes to worst and Palm Inc. closes, one of the goals behind the spin-off of PalmSource is to allow the OS to go on.Though not yet a separate company, Palm intends to make it one at some point in the future.
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Grafitii to go away
RE: Grafitii to go away
RE: Grafitii to go away
You could just teach the software to be Graffiti.
I still think this is lame...
Perhaps Xerox will sue me... I've been using Graffiti like writing system since I was in grade school (I wonder if they developed it in the late 60's).
I'm sorry, but IMHO, this whole thing is lame. Why did Xerox wait so long to bring this up? Did they start this process just recently, after allowing Palm to fatten up a bit?
An American tradition... When you don't get your way... sue, sue, sue!
You can thank the MSFT-Bashers
What goes around comes around. There's always a "Day of Reckoning". "First they went after my neighbor and I said noithing. Then they went after me."
Patent Lessons Provided by PayPal and Palm
Doug Isenberg
Attorney at Law
Editor & Publisher, GigaLaw.com (http://www.GigaLaw.com)
RE: Patent Lessons Provided by PayPal and Palm
RE: Patent Lessons Provided by PayPal and Palm
"And licensees of the Palm operating system (including Handspring, HandEra, Sony, Kyocera and Samsung) would be damaged by the fallout, either by having to drop Graffiti from their devices altogether or by paying to license the Xerox patent, too."
Is totally off since you cannot charge a license fee to licensees. It would all be incurred by Palm.
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Karl Browning
kaosfury@yahoo.com
RE: Patent Lessons Provided by PayPal and Palm
What do you call 50,000 lawyers at the bottom of the ocean?
A good start.
RE: Patent Lessons Provided by PayPal and Palm
Is totally off since you cannot charge a license fee to licensees. It would all be incurred by Palm.
Where did you get that idea? Any manufacturer who incorporates patented technology into its product is liable to the patentee for damages. It is not a defense to say that "Palm licensed the technology to me." If Palm didn't own the technology, the license isn't worth the paper it's printed on. Caveat: Palm's license agreements with manufacturers are not available to the public. They may contain a provision whereby Palm agrees to pay any damages arising from patent litigation that challeneges Palm's rights in the PalmOS, including Graffiti.
Also, concerning the bond: If Palm is required to post a bond of $50 million, they will probably only have to put up 10% of that amount, or $5 million. This is comparable to a criminal bail bond.
RE: Patent Lessons Provided by PayPal and Palm
You missed the point. This is not intended to be an informative (or entertaining) piece of journalism. It is nothing more than a marketing device. The subtext is: hey, there is this legal issue which might affect your business - pay me to tell you about it. Most lawyers do this sort of thing.
Now is the time to buy
If you want to think short term, the day the m515 and m130 get announced Palm's stock will probably take a temporary 15% to 20% bounce. Buy cheap now, sell then.
I'm not a financial consultant, nor do I play one on TV.
RE: Now is the time to buy
Let me guess, buckwheat? You are an armchair ANALyst.
No thanks on the PALM stock. Sold it in 2000 for a nice hefty profit. Wouldn't touch the mound of **** with a 10-foot pole.
RE: Now is the time to buy
RE: Now is the time to buy
Help me understand
RE: Help me understand
Yep, Graffiti came out for the Newton. Interestingly, it was made by a tiny little software company called Palm.
from humble beginnings.....
RE: Help me understand
Eduardo Akira Watanabe
Bauru - SP - Brazil
RE: Help me understand
Here's an interesting tidbit...
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Xerox has always sucked
Almost there but not all the way.
Like my dad used to say to me..."Almost chicken, doesn't make any soup".
What damages?
I didn't know Xerox made pda's. The damages as I see them, are probably the research cost, and I don't think those are 50M. I do have sympathy with Xerox, but why didn't they act 10 years ago when the first Palm's hit the market? It's not like Palm has been very secretive about this product.
This will probably end in some kind of settlement I think...
????????
i think somebody really doesnt like palm...
regards,
SaxonMan
Xerox sucks
Almost there but not all the way.
Like my dad used to say to me..."Almost chicken, doesn't make any soup".
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