N760C No Longer Available from SonyStyle

Posted By: Ed Thursday, March 21, 2002 3:40:46 PM

In what is probably a sign that Sony will release the NR series in the near future, the PEG-N760C is now listed as "Sold Out" on Sony's webstore, SonyStyle. Until now, the N760C was Sony's flagship handheld but it is expected to be superseded in the near future by the NR series, which the company announced in Japan last week.

The N760C offers a 16-bit 320 by 320 pixel screen and a built-in MP3 player. It's still available from online and retail stores but it seems likely that Sony has discontinued it or it would still be selling it on its own webstore.

Sony recently dropped the price of the the N760C from $450 to $400, which set off speculation that Sony was planning on replacing the model, which is the last remaining member of the N series.

In the past, when SonyStyle has listed handhelds as "Sold Out", a few weeks afterwards it announced a replacement for them. For example, SonyStyle first listed the N610C as "Sold Out" on December 20, 2001. On January 15, it announced its replacement, the T615C.

NR70V Last week, Sony announced the NR series in Japan and there has been no official word about availability in any other country. The PEG-NR70 and PEG-NR70V both have built-in keyboards and 320 by 480 color screens. They also have built-in MP3 and ATRAC3 audio players and use the 66 MHz Dragonball processor. In addition, the PEG-NR70V has a built-in camera.

Though a few people have doubted whether the NR series would be available outside of Japan, Sony hasn't released a Clié in Japan and then not also done so in the U.S. since the very first generation of its handheld line.

Thanks to markpmc for the tip. -Ed

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N760's death is assured

ImpReza @ 3/21/2002 4:03:17 PM #
This all but proves the discontinuation of the N760. Bring on the NR Series! We could certainly use the extra memory as well as the other features.

RE: N760's death is assured
I.M. Anonymous @ 3/21/2002 7:49:44 PM #
Hey Ed, any chance you have an average time from when other Clie models have 'Sold Out' to the time the new generation is released? Might give us an estimated date to look forward to.

RE: N760's death is assured
I.M. Anonymous @ 3/22/2002 9:18:51 AM #
I am selling my N770C which is only 2 months old. I bought that over the T series because of mp3. But since Sony never ever sells accessories to the European market and since the S and N connector is dead (they don't sell S series anymore), I think I will get a NR. The NR would be a Japanese OS. Since it's OS 4.1 do you think I can flash OS 4.1 from my old Clie to the NR?

btw, since OS 5 will be shipped to licensees this Spring/Summer, will be North American and European release of the NR series be MX based??

RE: N760's death is assured
I.M. Anonymous @ 3/22/2002 9:33:34 AM #
> The NR would be a Japanese OS.

It will be available in English in the U.S. in about a month. Can't you wait that long? The other versions of the OS aren't going to work on the NR. There are too many changes in the NR. I have no idea what the 770's OS would make of the 480 by 320 screen but I'm fairly certain it wouldn't be usable. And were you planning to write the virtual Graffiti drivers yourself?

RE: N760's death is assured
I.M. Anonymous @ 3/24/2002 11:46:59 AM #
Yeah, I know but I am in Europe, which takes 6 months for a new product from Japan to arrive. If there is a flaw in Sony, it's their marketing. Palm users know what is happening around the world. I wanted to upgrade to the T series but since the annoucenment of the NR series, I decided against since the 'new' T series is in fact an old model.

Wouldn't it be weird if...

I.M. Anonymous @ 3/21/2002 4:08:44 PM #
Sony called the NR series like by an actual name instead of some crazy number? $5 for whoever can come up with the best name...

Perhaps the Clamie I and Clamie II ???

RE: Wouldn't it be weird if...
Ed @ 3/21/2002 6:14:24 PM #
It's nice to dream but not going to happen. All of Sony stuff has odd names. Think about it, Vaio, Aibo... What happened to the people who named the Walkman?

I'd call it the Proteus. He was someone from Greek mythology who could change into any shape and foretell the future.

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RE: Wouldn't it be weird if...
ImpReza @ 3/21/2002 6:46:18 PM #
the people who named the walkman most likely retired by now. i'm guessing that sony now names their products strange 4 letter words. Don't forget Wega.

RE: Wouldn't it be weird if...
I.M. Anonymous @ 3/21/2002 6:49:43 PM #
work with me for a minute...

i got it: the clie!

Can't wait !!

I.M. Anonymous @ 3/21/2002 4:14:30 PM #
Sweet !!

RE: Can't wait !!
I.M. Anonymous @ 3/22/2002 1:21:00 AM #
HOT DAMN! HERE IT COMES, I HOPE!....

Even homer says "Doh!" (_8(|)

SUCKERS!

I.M. Anonymous @ 3/21/2002 4:09:56 PM #
All you people who bought the N610/710/750/760 have all been given the BIG finger by sony. This company has only been selling PDA's for about a year and now these old machines, even though they were pretty nice, have been discontinued.

Guess what, now you WON'T find ANY accessories for that N760 you just bought a few months ago... This is pathetic. I truly feel sorry for all you Sony buyers.

At least companies like palm, handspring, compaq and Hp have tried to maintain "universal" connectors between updates to their pda's, BUT sony seems to think that those who own an N series Pda should now dump it in favor of the NR/T series. I'm not a sony basher but short lifecycles like these with no backwards compatability from newer products is just a blatant attempt to rip off the consumer.

RE: SUCKERS!
I.M. Anonymous @ 3/21/2002 4:30:18 PM #
"Guess what, now you WON'T find ANY accessories for that N760 you just bought a few months ago... This is pathetic. I truly feel sorry for all you Sony buyers."

ok thanks for your info. I really don't want to reply to this thread, but I think some action should be taken against morons.

1) look at the news, N-series can always use those MS modules accessories

2) the serial port is never the best way to expan your device, but it does have accessories that uses that port.

3) is there even a mp3 player on the Palm M-series, what are you barking about !? no accessories who has not accessories ?

RE: SUCKERS!
I.M. Anonymous @ 3/21/2002 4:31:22 PM #
He's right. Last month I loved my Clie. It was useful for keeping track of things and I really enjoyed playing games and reading on i. Ever since the 615 came out, I can't get any of the programs to work. Now with the NR coming, it has melted into a pile of slag in the corner. Oh well.

RE: SUCKERS!
I.M. Anonymous @ 3/21/2002 4:35:55 PM #
to the 4:31:22 PM guy HAHA

RE: SUCKERS!
I.M. Anonymous @ 3/21/2002 4:39:47 PM #
Thank god i have my 3 year replacement plan. I can switch my N-760 for an NR 70V ^_^ free of charge baby! woohoo!!!

RE: SUCKERS!
rldunn @ 3/21/2002 4:44:02 PM #
"All you people who bought the N610/710/750/760 have all been given the BIG finger by sony. This company has only been selling PDA's for about a year and now these old machines, even though they were pretty nice, have been discontinued.

Guess what, now you WON'T find ANY accessories for that N760 you just bought a few months ago... This is pathetic. I truly feel sorry for all you Sony buyers."


Gee, thanks for your concern!! Good thing I already got my keyboard, cell phone cable, memory sticks, and my 3 cases before they all magically disappear. It's been awful the past several months using such a lowly device, having to put up with fonts that actually look nice, never having an opportunity to use my up/down button because the jogdial grabs my attention, viewing pics in such great detail that it causes extra strain on my eyes. I only wish I could have seen your post before that dark day when I made my purchase decision.

RE: SUCKERS!
Foo Fighter @ 3/21/2002 5:07:06 PM #
A PocketPC troll posted here? What a shock!

RE: SUCKERS!
I.M. Anonymous @ 3/21/2002 5:12:53 PM #
To the original poster, I am so happy for you and enjoy your SUDS Palm crap and enhanced "E" & "H" cradles, have a good day.

RE: SUCKERS!
I.M. Anonymous @ 3/21/2002 5:27:42 PM #
Well Sony is getting to be like Toyota, how many Camry bodies in the last 12 years. However, those of us who actually think before we speak realize that we still have a well made machine and though we may lust after the fastest and the newest. These days the newest is old in 2 minutes. I am not defined by my PDA or so insecure that I feel "fingered" if a new one comes out. As others have alos pointed out the memory stick add ons will be pretty much applicable to most of the current clies for some time to come.

S360
I.M. Anonymous @ 3/21/2002 5:31:18 PM #
S360 is still there and it has the same connector as the N-series. S-series and N-series share most of the accessories. Also as someone already said, MS modules can always be used. I do not see that you should worry.

RE: SUCKERS!
I.M. Anonymous @ 3/21/2002 5:56:09 PM #
You think the 760's users are SUCKERS? Well all the people who bought the Toshiba e550 and e570 or the Audiovox Maestro are totally SCREWED cause Toshiba is not going to make either model any more and is coming out with a new connection for their new models. Atleast these current Sony owners have some accessories!

RE: SUCKERS!
I.M. Anonymous @ 3/21/2002 6:33:38 PM #
"3) is there even a mp3 player on the Palm M-series, what are you barking about !? no accessories who has not accessories ?"

Well I'd leave off #3 in your counter argument, because the M100 series indeed does (as does the V series).

http://www.pocketpyro.com/

RE: SUCKERS!
I.M. Anonymous @ 3/21/2002 7:18:03 PM #
<< To the original poster, I am so happy for you and enjoy your SUDS Palm crap and enhanced "E" & "H" cradles, have a good day. >>

Actually, there's a "SUCKERS!" post over in the thread on the new cradles, too. Methinks this is a PocketPC troll.

RE: SUCKERS!
pontif @ 3/21/2002 10:21:30 PM #
Hey, if any of you people who think your PDA is now worthless, feel free to send it to me! I'd even buy a new N610 today, if the price was right!

RE: SUCKERS!
I.M. Anonymous @ 3/21/2002 10:46:19 PM #
> Actually, there's a "SUCKERS!" post over in the >thread on the new cradles, too. Methinks this is a >PocketPC troll.

Ok, I see, so he is a POCKETPC/Microsoft TROLL !

RE: SUCKERS!
I.M. Anonymous @ 3/22/2002 12:05:02 AM #
"Guess what, now you WON'T find ANY accessories for that N760 you just bought a few months ago... This is pathetic. I truly feel sorry for all you Sony buyers."

I wonder what PDA he has?


RE: SUCKERS!
I.M. Anonymous @ 3/22/2002 12:52:58 AM #
Definitely not N760C.

RE: SUCKERS!
I.M. Anonymous @ 3/22/2002 1:54:43 AM #
Okay, so Sony has changed the connector HOW many times? Like once?

Don't the S-Series (since their FIRST CLIE, the S300) and the N-Series share the same connector? So, they've only changed the connector for the T-Series, which was probably required due to smaller shape of the devices. And hey, they're KEEPING the T-Series connector in these new NR models.

Handspring has done the same thing. They changed connectors once, for their Visor Edge. Again, I assume it was simply to allow for the smaller form factor. Visor Solo, Deluxe, Platinum, Prism, Pro, and Neos all have the SAME connector. Hell, aside from the Prism, they all have the SAME body shape.

Palm has done it how many times? Three? Four? Let's count. Original Palm devices (Pilot Pros, etc etc). Palm III/VII series (assuming this was different to the originals, not sure). Palm V Series. Palm m100, m105. And finally the 'universal' connector. Even if they've only done it three times (originals, m100's, universals), that's STILL twice more than either Sony OR Handspring.

Of all company's, Palm appears to be the worst at propagating "blatant attempt[s] to rip off the consumer." m505 -> m515 anyone? How about m105 -> m125?


RE: SUCKERS!
I.M. Anonymous @ 3/22/2002 9:36:45 AM #
**** this. Palm, Sony, Handspring, Handera and Acer are all here to give us all a damn choice. Do you all go driving the same ****ing car. Granted if Ferrari's all costs the same as a Toyota, which would you buy? A Ferrari! But it does not! Same goes with PalmOS PDAs. The m505 has recently dropped to £199 in the UK. The T-625 and N770 costs £350. The m130 costs £230 and the m515 costs £320. There you go, there is a colour PDA for every budget. If you don't want colour there is a m100 for £45, a m105 for £98, a m125 for £150, a m500 for £190, a Clie S300 for £130, a Visor Edge for £150! You are all so ****ing childish. I am happy with every PDAs as long as it is a PalmOS PDA.
RE: SUCKERS!
Roy @ 3/22/2002 11:06:02 AM #
Sorry, off topic hear, but saw a post above that interested me...

"Thank god i have my 3 year replacement plan. I can switch my N-760 for an NR 70V ^_^ free of charge baby! woohoo!!!"

I have the Best Buy 3 year extended Warranty. Is that what you were talking about. Can you "trade up" and get another pda? I would pay the difference. Does anyone know if BB actually will allow you to trade up? I did not see that in the agreement. Do you have to bs them and tell them that your pda does not work to get a trade up deal? Or is this a totally different plan than what I have. Mine was 60.00 for extended 3 year. Not sure if it's the same plan.

Thanks in advance.

Roy

RE: SUCKERS!
I.M. Anonymous @ 3/22/2002 11:13:50 AM #
you need to break the thing 3 times and on the condition that they don't have the same thing in stock then you could trade up I think .

RE: SUCKERS!
I.M. Anonymous @ 3/22/2002 1:17:39 PM #
Why would anyone with a Toshiba e550 or e570 care if they change the serial connector. It has a CF-2 slot which offers great expandability.

RE: SUCKERS!
I.M. Anonymous @ 3/22/2002 5:50:13 PM #
Glad to see all you sony lovers up in arms over my comments. I made the original comment above. I did not make the other "suckers" comment on the other thread.

Anyway, It's good to see you folks liven up a bit, it's too boring in these comment sections somtimes. Also by the way, I DO NOT own a PPC (God forbid). I do own a palm os device but I won't mention what it is since that has no relevance to my original comment.

And as far as the Sony NR series, I do stand by the original comment that sony will only disenfranchise many current clie owners by discontinuing items too quickly and creating new connectors for peripherals and such. ANd I have to agree with another post on here that mentions the clumsy clam shell design.

Good money down says the NR won't sell well in the US.

But, That's just my opinion.

Jolly Good. See you folks at the next Sony news item.

RE: SUCKERS!
I.M. Anonymous @ 3/23/2002 2:33:11 AM #
wow. this site is full of conspiracy theorists! Anything against palm is a troll from Clie or PPC people. Sounds like some Palm people are getting rather defensive about their devices and the lack of progress in the OS.

RE: SUCKERS!
I.M. Anonymous @ 3/24/2002 11:49:55 AM #
The lack of progress in the OS is not an issue for Palm, it's for PalmSource. The lack of progress in the OS is an issue to all palmOS licensee which includes Sony, handspring etc. Palm and Sony are partners not enemies although many childish users are...

RE: SUCKERS!
I.M. Anonymous @ 3/24/2002 10:08:08 PM #
"The lack of progress in the OS is not an issue for Palm, it's for PalmSource. The lack of progress in the OS is an issue to all palmOS licensee which includes Sony, handspring etc."

The problem is PalmSource is an independent compan for about 2 months only.

And when Sony make any progress in the Palm OS, those Anti-Sony Zealots will say it's not standard or it's proprietory and it'll lose support in 3 months.

it's funny how contradicting people could be

Quite possibly the news I've been waiting for

I.M. Anonymous @ 3/21/2002 4:17:19 PM #
This has been a bad week for me personally. My Palm Vx first got run over by my daughter's SUV [believe it or not it survived!], then it fell out of my pocket into a fountain at the local Mall, and finally gave out. Poor thing...I'm thinking of buring it on the weekend.

But now I get the message...the gods WANT me to buy the new Sony Clie! I have seen the light...!!

RE: Quite possibly the news I've been waiting for
I.M. Anonymous @ 3/21/2002 4:25:12 PM #
Dude, that's sad.

Hopefully the data was synched up before all that happened.

By the way, I'd suggest you be more careful with your next PDA ;)

RE: Quite possibly the news I've been waiting for
jjsoh @ 3/21/2002 4:35:23 PM #
Hehehe.. that's a pretty funny history. You sure you didn't _subconsciously_ drop it in the fountain when you heard about the new Sony CLIÉ? ;)

Well.. at least that's what I would do because no way my wife would let me get YAP (yet another Palm) as long as I had a functioning one.

Any chance of seeing your ex-Palm V in the Palm Graveyard before you bury it?


Jim

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