Tidbits About the NR Series
The first of Sony's NR series, the NR70, was released in Japan on Saturday. TWCUG has pictures of the packaging and some comparison pictures with a T600C.
There is a great deal of anticipation about when these handhelds will be released in other countries. According to a source at Best Buy, the PEG-NR70 is listed in that retailer's system. Apparently the same name will be used in both countries. Its price is $500 and SKU is 4586978.
No info on U.S. availability of the version with the camera, the NR70V, is available yet. However, Sony now lists the N760C, which was its flagship handheld, as "Sold Out" on its webstore. This is a strong indication that the company will be introducing a replacement in the coming weeks.
The developer of McFile and hrFontMapper has released beta versions of these apps that support the NR-series full-screen mode. The English documentation of these apps hasn't been updated yet.
The PEG-NR70 and PEG-NR70V both have built-in keyboards and 320 by 480 color screens. They also have built-in MP3 and ATRAC3 audio players and use the 66 MHz Dragonball processor.
Thanks to Neil and Eugene for their help. -Ed
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RE: Cell phones?
The decision to use PalmOS will be Ericsson's decision, and from what I can see, they have no plans to do so.
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RE: Cell phones?
Treo is not an option, since no memory expansion possible.
$500 should be about right
What does it all mean? Not sure, but I would suggest that, given the instability of the Pocket PC's "business side," we might actually see it die soon...but not a moment TOO soon.
RE: $500 should be about right
The decision to use a certain machine with a certain operating system for business is more complex than that imho.
Important factors are network connectivity, administration tools, effort required to train both users and administrators, availability of peripherals, availability of service, availability of software that can be embedded in a company's software strategy and probably something else I forgot like cost of ownership throughout the life-cycle.
While it may not seem such a good idea to make a miniature windows OS for ppc's from a quality point of view, it does answer most of the points mentioned above. It simply feels familiar, including the blue screens, and doesn't need a lot of training.
Palm machines also score heavily on these points. Sony doesn't.
Business IT administrators don't like fast changes in hard and software. It makes their job more and more complex. They prefer a more stable platform.
Palm support is available worldwide. I don't know about Sony.
Palm peripherals are made by tons of companies, including networking stuff and also hardware for vertical markets. None of that for Sony.
No matter how much I appreciate the pioneering efforts of Sony, I would never recommend a company to invest in Sony machines for their Palm OS devices.
And with Handspring effectively killing off an entire product line in a single press conference I don't think that is a good move either. It takes years to restore the confidence of both the market and manufacturers that use the handspring platform.
At the moment there is no alternative for Palm hardware but Palm for a business buyer.
Companies with an installed base of Palms might have a look at HandEra. These are clearly aimed at the business power user. Limited availability is a problem, however.
Last but not least: Sony has never marketed their devices as being business tools either.
Cheers,
Jan
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RE: $500 should be about right
You're perfect for a marketing droid position at any major corporation. I will provide good references for you.
RE: $500 should be about right
US$500 for the US, no camera and possibly NOT 10MB ROM...
rip off...?
RE: $500 should be about right
US$500 for the US, no camera and possibly NOT 10MB ROM... <<<<<
They both have the same RAM as for ROM the japanese language needs more, english does not so why have it? Are you out hunting for ripoffs?
Maybe you should go buy the cheapest, Japanese pda you can find. I'm sure you will love it.
RE: $500 should be about right
Besides which, you need to give up on storing things in ROM. It's a desperate measure left over from the days when Palm handhelds didn't have memory cards. It's as outdated as the buggy whip.
This isn't a feature of the handhelds Sony is giving its Japanese customers and denying you. In fact, using any of those apps to store things in ROM is a violation of your warranty.
RE: $500 should be about right
First off, not everyone uses their memory card for backup, therefore having a copy of the more critical applications stored in ROM is definitely worth it in the event of a hard reset.
Secondly, memory cards are notoriously slow, so I rather have more data in ROM than on the cards.
Give me 10MB ROM ANYTIME over a 32mb memory card!
RE: $500 should be about right
>They both have the same RAM as for ROM the japanese >language needs more, english does not so why have it? >Are you out hunting for ripoffs?
>Maybe you should go buy the cheapest, Japanese pda >you can find. I'm sure you will love it.
That is about the dumbest thing I have heard!
What I meant was that Sony is selling a product for well over $100 more (still to be confirmed) with possibly less ROM compared to what it is selling for in Japan.
One CAN use the additional ROM. If your pea-brain has not figured this out yet, tough!
Maybe you should go back to your cave.
RE: $500 should be about right
Its supply and demand AND import export. A Honda is cheaper in Japan than it is here in the states.
It costs sony a pretty nickle to supply the US with these Clies. It is also a sign that the Clies sell better here than they do in Japan.
RE: $500 should be about right
It's another language. It seems inefficient to you maybe because you do not know it? I write Chinese, in some ways similar to Japanese. It's not inefficient, just different.
What about networking? Battery?
What options are there for extending battery life? Seems they should be able to include some sort of external pack. Without it, the low battery life scares me. I still see PocketPC people freaking out in the middle of the day when battery drains (no offense meant).
RE: What about networking? Battery?
RE: What about networking? Battery?
There's also a CF-sled for the "T"-series but it's not offered here (yet?)
Other interesting accessories for the NR70-series include an auxilliary battery pack (PEGA-BC10) and screen protectors (PEGA-SP70)
Check out: http://www.sony.jp/products/Consumer/PEG/PEG-NR70V/acc.html
RE: What about networking? Battery?
http://www.palminfocenter.com/view_Story.asp?ID=3193&MODE=FLAT
too much
RE: too much
RE: yeah right..
That day will come...just not in the near future
RE: too much
RE: too much
Eventually all high ends models become less-high end models.
The quicker the innovation, the sooner the 'downgrades' to less-high end models...
RE: too much
This isn't a complaint. It's the way it works with lots of products. Cars, for instance. Houses, too.
RE: too much
Sony will corner the market for those who want a cool device with all the extras (including price).
I have no need for all the whiz-bang features... just give me a good screen, long battery life, lots-o-memory, and the ability to use CF and SD/MMC devices (for serial, Ethernet, wireless, etc.)… So I can eliminate the need to carry a laptop.
RE: too much
RE: too much
RE: too much
They might price it as $399 and $499 if they want to dominate the high end Palm market. If not, it will be $499 and $599.
$499 would be similar to what 710/760 were when they first came out without the camera.
If I were Sony, I would take the middle road and price them to be $449 and $549 to be competitive with PocketPC devices.
removable battery pack?
RE: removable battery pack?
RE: removable battery pack?
RE: It is all over the place in Hong Kong retail store
1. it is "big" (the biggest Palm OS device so far ?)
2. it is heavy (even more than Prism)
3. finish is similar to N760C. Keyboard is very nice, though I am not allow to try (no battery - the shopkeeper said :-(
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