Rumor: Sony T-Series with Virtual Graffiti
Many people are hoping Sony will release a T-series model with a hi-res+ screen. Well, one appears on SonyStyle right now, sort of. In the Product Tour for the T665C is a page talking about its built-in TV remote control. However, the images on that page clearly show it with a virtual Graffiti area, exactly like the one from the NR series but which the T665C doesn't actually have. However, this is more likely a mistake made by a graphic artist than a hint of Sony's plans for the future.
The screens on all the handhelds shown on SonyStyle are simulated. This means the pictures of the handhelds are real but the screens are pasted in from screenshots. This is because it is almost impossible to take a photo that makes both a handheld and its screen look good.
It wouldn't be that difficult for a graphic artist working for Sony or some marketing firm working for it to use the wrong screen shot, especially is they weren't familiar with Sony's products, which is often the case. All it would take would be putting a screenshot from the NR series on a picture of the T665C to make this image.
Sony still may release a model with the T-series shape but the NR-series screen; this picture isn't a confirmation of it, though.
Thanks to tiger_bb and mocca for the tips. -Ed
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RE: Funny...
nice, but...
people are always complaining about the battery life of sony devices (I personally don't see it / care - its a rechargable battery, cradle it... it will last a few days of moderate use) but if they keep the dedicated DSP with mp3 playing and use this better screen, I think their battery life will continue its downward spiral.
Of course, using the 66mhz processor and shucking the mp3 for more battery life might be a nice choice for the more business/application minded like myself... A bigger screen is always a welcome addition.
RE: nice, but...
False Hope
True...
RE: Virtual stylus
-Peng Lord
RE: False Hope
The optional clip-on "gamepad" will be available for those that want to play games...but for most users, Sony might have figured that the hard buttons would not be missed. Hmmmm....
RE: False Hope
>those that want to play games...but for most users,
>Sony might have figured that the hard buttons would
>not be missed. Hmmmm....
I strongly agree. The functionality that both the jog dial and virtual graffiti area possess should more than make up for the missing hardware buttons.
RE: False Hope
No doubt
If this were a new model that they accidentally leaked, there would be no reason for it to still have the metal bar - it would look cleanest and be just as functional with minimal space used... screen, case surrounding it, power button.
Still - man would I love this device [with or without unneccessary metal bar :) ].
RE: False Hope
--
"Life is what you experience between racing games"
Galley
RE: False Hope
Yup, especially since the picture has been fixed as of "July 29, 2002 6:14:07 PM GMT" according to Netscape's Page Info (always annoys me that crappy IE doesn't have this feature -- Properties gives you the completely worthless date/time the file was written to your cache).
"There is a big demand for virtual graphiti and once you take that step then it also becomes clear that there is no real need for the buttons either."
Nah, there's always a need for at least a hardware power button, and getting rid of the other buttons really sucks if you like to play games on your handheld. I don't think a device that was incapable of playing most games would "dominate the market".
This is the One
If it were true that it had virtual graffiti
If it was OS 5..make that OS 6
If it ran on 400 mhz Xscale
If it had at least 256 mb RAM, 64 mb Flash
If the screen also acted as a solar recharger
If it had a Universal slot for MS, SD/MMC, and CF
If it was free after rebates
Just my .02 cents
RE: This is the One
right.... why not stick a time machine in there for good measure! Unless you want to spend $1500 on a PDA.. you'd better get comfy while you wait...
RE: This is the One
RE: This is the One
-The comic book guy
Huh?
>graphic artist than a hint of Sony's plans for the
>future.
So, Ed, basically _you_ are starting the rumor and dispelling it at the same time? Have you thought about a career in politics? :)
RE: Huh?
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News Editor
RE: Huh?
RE: Huh?
I think it's just a mistake. Look at it you can still see the 'down arrow' symbol that would sit below the scroll nubbin. I think sony just put this out thinking that no one would care that it's the wrong picture. Quit debating.
Not sure this explaination works
A graphic artist, when combining images to produce the virtual tour photo, would be working with an actual photograph of the device and the screen capture. The proportions of a screen capture from the correct device (T665) would be correct for simple placement over top of the blank screen on the photograph. In other words, the screen capture would be square and the space to fill would be square. However, the 320x480 resolution of a screen capture from a virtual grafiti device would mean that the graphic artist would have to cover a portion of the device photograph (the section with the buttons), then work pretty hard to blend the edges so that the result looked natural.
This may not mean that a virtual grafiti T-series Clie exists, but I think it is unlikely that this is a case of a simple "mistake," since the process itself would really not be that simple.
RE: Not sure this explaination works
Artists Fault
RE: Not sure this explaination works
RE: Not sure this explaination works
Not necessarily. Photos sometimes are taken of preproduction models.
Sony is real
RE: Sony is real
I think the unit like that exist =)
I believe the real unit like in the picture exist (at least at Sony USA). They might don't want to release it because 1) controvesial of having no hard buttons and 2) it will compete with NR series directly since there are many people want virtual graffiti but slim design of the T series, I for one =)
Mocca
RE: Sony is real
It is much easier to open a program by hitting one button than the tedious process of pullin out the tiny stylus and having to aim the stylus at the exact virtual hardkey button.
If sony is going to do away with the hardkey buttons, i'm afraid i'm going to have to do away with sony.
I love my Nr70v for EVERYthing except the fact that there are no hardkey buttons in tablet mode. I think sony should have somehow made only one set of hardkey buttons available in BOTH clamshell and tablet mode on the NR70v. They could put these buttons where the hinge is, sorta like how the power button is accessable in both clamshell and tablet mode.
the point is, I (and i believe many other people as well) NEED the hardkey buttons.
RE: Sony is real
I changed my mind, i don't need hardkey buttons.
RE: Sony is real
-Mad
4 real world = hard buttons, to show off = virtual buttons
and you don't have to look at the screen
RE: Sony is real
RE: Just fix the buttons
They must have decided to give up and "go home" so to speak and just avoided the buttons entirely!
Truly awful!
-Kevin Crossman
RE: Just fix the buttons
Just my $.02 of course
Masters of Marketing – Death of PalmInc
Sony (and other 3rd party hardware makers) want what all companies want – market share, period. Frankly, I can’t wait for Sony to release a T series 66+mhz with a soft-graffiti area so I can actually use all of the fantasy claims Palm is making about OS5 today and replace my IIIc.
Yes, that’s right I said IIIc – it is the only PDA device that actually works. No I don’t watch movies, view pictures, or read the bible on my PDA. I do project planning, goal setting, read mail with attachments, and get things done (you know, PDA stuff). I’ve owned too many PDAs (Sharp, Apple, PPC, Palm) to mention and have come to the conclusion that software matters and PPC apps will always be tiny versions of PC apps that lack functionality because of the desire to squash a PC app on to a tiny screen.
Given the extreme pace at which Sony is pumping out “new” PDAs I believe a 66mhz T series with a soft-graffiti area already exists because a T series device such as this is nothing more than an NR70 without the flip-casing. So why hasn’t it the market? I believe Sony is waiting just prior to the release of the new OSLO device because it knows there are allot of OSLO dollars waiting to blindly fly out of electronic junkies wallets very soon.
In this chess game Sony is several moves ahead. When the release date for an OS5 device is made you’ll see a flood of 66mhz/hi-res OS4 devices hit the market and kill PalmInc’s OSLO because there will be no more dollars to spend on OSLO. This will kill PalmInc because Palm needs OS5 sales to successful fund the real ARM device to be released sometime in 2003 and it won’t financially be able to make that happen.
What is ironic here is that Palm did the same thing to Apple. Palm introduced the Pilot when Apple decided to make the Newton more PC-like. The Palm was simpler, faster, and user friendly and the rest is history. The same scenario will probably happen to PalmInc as OSLO tries to morph itself into a PC/PPC. The difference is that PalmSource will survive on its license dollars and continue to provide the OS to the marketplace while innovators such as Sony will continue provide the hardware. And who knows perhaps a Sony ARM device will happen before 2002, but I do know that PalmInc is currently pinned down by Sony’s checkmate and not even the partnering agreement they currently have will save Palm.
RE: Masters of Marketing – Death of PalmInc
How do you possibly conclude that the market will be "flooded" with OS4 devices AFTER the announcement of an OS5 device?

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