Palm Releases Desktop 4.1 for Windows
Wednesday, July 31, 2002 4:15:30 PM
Palm Inc. has released a new version of its desktop client for Windows PCs. Palm Desktop 4.1 offers a desktop client for the built-in Expense app which allows users to export info to Microsoft Excel or Word. It also has the ability to automatically remove all duplicate entries from the Address Book, Date Book, To Do's and Memos. This app has been released by Palm for Palm-branded handhelds, though it will work with some models from other manufacturers. The update is free.
Other new features in Palm Desktop 4.1 include customizable desktop alarms, in place memo editing, and new themes.
It will run on a Pentium class PC running Windows 95/98/NT4.0/2000/ME or XP. Palm has not also updated the Mac version of the Palm Desktop.
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RE: didn't work 4 me
Installed flawlessly on my Dell Latitude with W2000 and M505. The only thing I noticed was that it took all the categories in expense and dumped everything to 'unfiled'... so make sure that won't mess you up too bad. Otherwise, no problems.
RE: didn't work 4 me
It worked just fine in my NT 4 sp6a. It didn't erase my desktop to go conduits as I expected.
C_Blue
RE: didn't work 4 me
I.M. Anonymous @ 7/31/2002 11:46:11 PM #
Perfect integration with Compaq Evo N160.
RE: didn't work 4 me
I.M. Anonymous @ 8/1/2002 4:48:23 AM #
I was concerned because I had some conduits (avantgo, doctogo, worldmate, acrobat reader). But it worked fine in my win2k laptop.
RE: didn't work 4 me
I.M. Anonymous @ 8/1/2002 1:35:12 PM #
FAQ on Palm website indicates you need Service Pack 6
RE: didn't work 4 me
I.M. Anonymous @ 8/1/2002 10:07:53 PM #
reply to previous post. I have Nt 4.0 service pack 6 but it would not run. I thought it might be my CLIE when I read about the problems with this and sony products but this stops just on the install before I even connect my CLIE by serial. It might have to be installed as administrator rather than just as an account with membership in the administrator group.
RE: didn't work 4 me
I.M. Anonymous @ 8/4/2002 12:40:52 PM #
I have Windows XP Pro, with all updates that are on line. And I had the same problem. Un-install old and then hang up and not finish install. Could not find user data?
What gives?
What gives?
RE: didn't work 4 me
I.M. Anonymous @ 8/5/2002 7:37:14 AM #
I have problem with installation on Win2000 sp3. Both upgrade install from 4.01 or clean install would not work.
RE: didn't work 4 me
I.M. Anonymous @ 8/28/2002 11:11:26 PM #
Hi,
All installation went OK on my XP machine, except that when installing avantgo, the relevant (avantgo) conduit does not install itself. Can't see it in the hotsync list.
Any solution to get the avantgo conduit back ?
Regards
Pierre
RE: didn't work 4 me
I.M. Anonymous @ 9/6/2002 12:33:39 PM #
Installed fine on Win2000(SP2), but Desktop would not run--gives error and dies. Guess I'll go back to 4.0.1.
Anyone try it with Sony Clie T615c or similar?
I.M. Anonymous @ 7/31/2002 5:00:33 PM #
I will probably try this myself to see what happens. But if some brave soul has already taken the plunge, I'd love to hear about it.
RE: Anyone try it with Sony Clie T615c or similar?
Works fine with my 615C, as well as my m515 and i705.
RE: Anyone try it with Sony Clie T615c or similar?
Works on my 615. I had Sony Desktop and installed on top, the Palm Fatal Errored, I then reinstalled the Sony Desktop overtop of the Palm and worked fine and all the new stuff remains and works fine. LOVE the duplicate finder!!!
Upgrade on Sony Clie t615
I.M. Anonymous @ 7/31/2002 9:58:23 PM #
I upgraded it on my clie 615.... clie crashed and had to revert back to 4.01 for clie.... guess it's not compat. w/ sony! :-(
RE: Anyone try it with Sony Clie T615c or similar?
I.M. Anonymous @ 8/1/2002 11:22:18 AM #
I have the NR-70 and installed the desktop update on my home and work computers. No problems at all.
RE: Anyone try it with Sony Clie T615c or similar?
I.M. Anonymous @ 8/2/2002 6:13:51 PM #
HMm I upgraded the Sony Clie NR70 Palm Desktop, and the software found and upgraded the old Palm Desktop, but the unit would not sync - could not connect to the PC, despite being able to us MS Import and AudioPlayer to transfer files. Had to go back to Sony's Palm Desktop. Any ideas?
RE: Anyone try it with Sony Clie T615c or similar?
I.M. Anonymous @ 8/5/2002 9:36:54 PM #
Try deleting the PalmUSBD.sys file from C:\WINNT\system32\drivers and also uninstalling the 'Sony Handheld' USB driver from the Device Manager (you'll need to perform a HotSync while the Device Manager window is open so that the Sony USB driver appears in the list).
RE: Is there a Sony version??
I.M. Anonymous @ 7/31/2002 9:06:33 PM #
It would not sync with the 610, just gave a fatal error. Nice job Palm.
RE: Is there a Sony version??
I.M. Anonymous @ 7/31/2002 9:53:59 PM #
As the article says, which you apparently didn't read, "This app has been released by Palm for Palm-branded handhelds" It is up to Sony to make a version for your n610c. You are confusing Palm and PalmSource. Palm makes the m500 series, a competitor to your CLIE. They couldn't care less if your can't use this app, you bought a competitor's product. Might as well get mad at Ford because your Chevy doesn't work.
RE: Is there a Sony version??
: It would not sync with the 610, just gave a fatal
: error. Nice job Palm.
: error. Nice job Palm.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't it Sony's problem and not Palm's? Can CLIÉ owners tell me if Sony comes with their own modified version of Palm Desktop?
Jim
RE: Is there a Sony version??
I.M. Anonymous @ 7/31/2002 11:07:49 PM #
Good News - it worked on my Palm M505. Don't worry, it works on Palms!
RE: Is there a Sony version??
'Doh! I guess I wasn't fast enough.
I posted my message right after the previous post which explains it all. Oh well.. ^_^
Jim
RE: Is there a Sony version??
Shouldn't the hotsync software be done by Palmsource (The same way Activesync is done by Microsoft) and not Palm? The syncronization is an integral part of a PDA OS so it should be done by Palmsourc who should produce one that works across the whole spectrum of devices.... Another of Palmsource shortsightedness....
RE: Is there a Sony version??
I.M. Anonymous @ 8/1/2002 7:05:28 AM #
It worked with my Clie 760C. Should work on your 610C.
The new colour schemes are nice!
I.M. Anonymous @ 7/31/2002 6:27:21 PM #
But does anyone really use Palms desktop? I mean its pretty useless as a productivity tool. I'd rather keep my sync going to Outlook and Yahoo....
RE: The new colour schemes are nice!
I.M. Anonymous @ 7/31/2002 6:34:09 PM #
> But does anyone really use Palms desktop? I mean its pretty useless as a productivity tool. I'd rather keep my sync going to Outlook and Yahoo....
Some prefer the simplicity of Palm desktop, ntm Outlooks tendency towards vulnerability.
RE: The new colour schemes are nice!
I.M. Anonymous @ 7/31/2002 6:43:18 PM #
I find the desktop extremely convenient and quick. I wish it could do some of the things that ActionNames does on the pda (link events to address book entries and icons). Maybe Iamic can come up with a conduit that does that, hint hint.
Definitely don't feel safe/comfortable running Outlook.
RE: The new colour schemes are nice!
I.M. Anonymous @ 7/31/2002 7:23:23 PM #
Yup, Outlook scares me. I've used Palm Desktop since my Pilot 1000 days - and it still does everything I need.
RE: The new colour schemes are nice!
I.M. Anonymous @ 8/1/2002 1:12:23 AM #
I've tried syncing with Outlook, Lotus Notes, Time and Chaos, and the Franklin Planner and I keep coming back to Palm Desktop. It's simple, fast, syncs correctly every time and with little or no fanfare or extra garbage, it just gets the job done. Outlook never seemed to sync all the info correctly the first time, there were always some things buggered up. I just don't have time for that.
RE: The new colour schemes are nice!
I.M. Anonymous @ 8/1/2002 1:14:43 AM #
Once, Outlook droped my ~2000 records and reported a database error, then I gave up and decided not to use it anymore. So far palm desktop still keep all my records safely.
RE: The new colour schemes are nice!
I.M. Anonymous @ 8/1/2002 7:50:46 AM #
Perhaps you should keep some type of backup file of your outlook information. To bad you had to learn the hard way.
RE: The new colour schemes are nice!
I.M. Anonymous @ 8/1/2002 3:32:22 PM #
maybe you dont know how to use Outlook. I've been syncing to my outlook since I had my Palm Pro. yeah, in the beginning was a little hard.. but its great now. used it with PalmV and PalmM515. Plus if i have been using Outlook for these years. why the hell would i want to start using Palm Desktop
worth using???
I.M. Anonymous @ 8/1/2002 3:40:16 PM #
i dont even remember using the desktop version from Palm. I have always use Outlook... is it even worth upgrading????
What a dog...
I.M. Anonymous @ 7/31/2002 7:08:14 PM #
I'm really wondering what the developers of Palm Desktop were thinking... did they even test this software? Go to the Memo Pad, put your cursor in the text of a message on the right -- logic dictates that you could actually EDIT THE DAMNED MEMO from here. No, you have to hit "edit memo" and pull up a floating window -- nearly identical to the message pane on the right -- and edit from there. It's absurd.
RE: What a dog...
I.M. Anonymous @ 7/31/2002 7:22:05 PM #
Are you on drugs? I can edit my memo's without hitting "Edit Memo". The pane on the right side is editable...
RTFM
RE: What a dog...
I.M. Anonymous @ 7/31/2002 8:16:58 PM #
Maybe it's you who's on drugs. Or maybe you aren't using the same version. In reading the effing manual for the desktop for 4.0.1, I came across:
"To edit memo text, double-click the memo."
Now, stop being such a harsh mistress.
RE: What a dog...
I.M. Anonymous @ 7/31/2002 8:34:07 PM #
You're using the old version if it says 4.0.1, the new desktop is 4.1 and it does let you edit in the pane to the right.
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