CDMA Treo 300 To Be Available Thursday (Updated)
Sprint will launch its CDMA 2000 1xRTT network this Thursday and the Treo 300 smartphone, which will use the new wireless network, will be released at the same time, according to InfoWorld. The Treo 300 uses the same 12-bit color screen as the Treo 270 and 90. The 3G network will allow the smartphone to connect to the Internet at between 50 Kbps and 70 Kbps. The service will be available in every city with more than 100 thousand people. The Treo 300 will be available only through Sprint. The price is not yet known.
Update: According to a source familiar with Handspring's plans, InfoWorld is incorrect and the Treo 300 will not be released on Thursday. The source could not say when it will be available.
Also not yet known is what Sprint will charge for wireless access. It is known that users will be charged for wireless networking by the amount of data used, not by the amount of time spent online.
This is not an official announcement of the product by Handspring, who decined to comment on this story.
Aside from using the new wireless network and the color screen, the the Treo 300 is quite similar to the Treo 270. It will run Palm OS 3.5.2H on a 33 MHz Dragonball VZ processor. It will have 16 MB of RAM and a built-in keyboard. There won't be a version with a Graffiti area.
The InfoWorld article says the Handspring device will be called the Treo 370, though previous information available on the device, including Handspring's FCC filing, calls it the Treo 300.
The other Treo smartphones use GSM, which is popular outside of the United States. CDMA is the predominant standard in the U.S. The Treo 180, 180g, and 270 can be upgraded to GPRS, which will greatly increase their network access speed, though this upgrade is not yet available.
Update 2: Cnet has confirmed that Sprint will roll-out its 3G wireless network on Thursday, though it says nothing about the Treo 300.
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RE: SMS?
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True SMS doesn't require making a web connection, and Verizon does support this with CDMA. Though I don't know if they'll be getting the Treo 300. I'm pretty sure they will get the Kyocera 7135 Smartphone in the 4th quarter of this year, which will support SMS natively in the phone.
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GPRS Upgrade ???
Unfortunetely there is really no other option for a GSM Palm phone.
That is until Sony puts out one.
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Are you kidding? They both have (Voicestream and AT&T) for many months. GPRS BlackBerries are available from their websites.
RE: GPRS Upgrade ???
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I've been using GPRS on my Clie via IR to my GSM cellular phone since January.
Much better solution than the Treo would've been. Their "E-Mail" capability that seems to have impressed my friends is merely SMS messaging, using an sms-email gateway.
Heck, my Nokia 5165 did that 3 years ago.
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RE: GPRS Upgrade ???
Even if Handspring came out with the GPRs upgrade, i am not sure that I would buy the phone. I just seems too big.
We need something like the Kyocera that's coming out but for GSM - GPRS !!!
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> press have said already... That the rollout of the
> GPRS upgrade is being determined by carriers
> accepting the upgraded devices onto their networks,
> not by Handspring's willingness. We are likely to see
> a carrier by carrier rollout of the upgrade, not an
> all at once release. Understand the process before
> you start bashing randomly out of ignorance.
Hmm, who's bashing randomly out of ignorance? In fact, I barely remember anyone bashing in this thread. The closest statement to a bash was probably "Handspring has really screwed GSM users"
If Handspring promised a GPRS patch in a certain period of time, and didn't deliver, it's Handspring's fault. It doesn't matter if the carrier is delaying the process. People bought Treos based on Handspring's promises.
So what if you happen to understand the process? Most Treo owners don't care about the process, nor should they care. This delay isn't some random act of God that Handspring could never have had a chance to avoid without sacrificing the life of the CEO's firstborn child.
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RE: GPRS Upgrade ???
Handspring did not "promise" an upgrade in a certain amount of time. They said that if there was sufficient demand and their carriers were willing, they would roll with the upgrade.
RE: GPRS Upgrade ???
They rushed a product to market to get a little market share before finished products started showing up. I posted last night in an O2 XDA thread on treocentral or pdabuzz (or was it smartphonesource) that treo users are probably pissed to see Voicestream (now T-mobile) release a GPRS ready pocketpc phone edition smartphone. The XDA looks like a contender (as opposed to the Thera). If Verizon carried it, I'd be examining it more closely.
"Unfortunetely there is really no other option for a GSM Palm phone. That is until Sony puts out one. "
Sony-Ericsson is going the Symbian route. The only reason they chose PalmOS over PocketPC for their handhelds is that they are a competitor with MSFT in many arenas.
"Handspring did not "promise" an upgrade in a certain amount of time. They said that if there was sufficient demand and their carriers were willing, they would roll with the upgrade."
They did too promise an upgrade by the end of the year. So they have until 11:59PM December 31st to release it.
Re: naming issue 300/370
They're trying to complete the circle: 90, 180, 270.. the next in this progression should have been 360, however the numbers are getting too big too fast. GSM devices should have been named with a "g" suffix and CDMA devices a "c" suffix with no suffix meaning it's not wireless. This naming method would have allowed for further progress, however it would have limited them to providing similar features in a ###(g)(c) devices of the same ###.
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RE: GPRS Upgrade ???
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What are you saying about Cingular???
It's the same thing with AT&T.....at least in Michigan. You can buy a GSM (with GPRS)Sony-Erricson phone, log onto the internet, and pipe it to your Palm via Bluetooth. Or simply surf the web with the phone.
Or, if you want to go with their TDMA towers, which have considerably more coverage (for now), then you buy a TDMA phone.
I'd like to help you, but your post is a little confusing.
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The source doesn't know anything about Sprint so they're no help there.
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You can read more about this here:
www.palminfocenter.com/view_Story.asp?ID=3881
The Treo 300 is supposed to use the same screen as the 270 and 90. If so, it possibly suffers from the same backlight problem. Handspring may still be in the process of fixing these models, which may account for the Treo 300 not being released soon. That's just speculation, though.
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I called my local Sprint store & spoke with the manager. He claims he has 3 Treo 300 in stock but is unable to sell them til Thursday. He stated that Thursday is Definitely the day the Treo 300 would go on sale. Is there any chance you can call a local Sprint store in your area to see if this can be validated. Also... another person at Treocentral.com who works at Best Buy stated that Best Buy would be selling the phone starting Sunday (Aug 11).
Sprint WILL launch 3G Thursday...
3G Fake
Sprints network is 2.5G just like Verizon.
UMTS CDMA2000 3G calls for much faster transfer speeds.
RE: 3G Fake
The International Telecommunications Union (ITU) has laid down some indicative minimum requirements for the data speeds that the IMT-2000 standards must support. These requirements are defined according to the degree of mobility involved when the 3G call is being made. As such, the data rate that will available over 3G will depend upon the environment the call is being made in:
High Mobility
144 kbps for rural outdoor mobile use. This data rate is available for environments in which the 3G user is traveling more than 120 kilometers per hour in outdoor environments. Let us hope that the 3G user is in a train and not driving along and trying to use their 3G terminal at such speeds.
Full Mobility
384 kbps for pedestrian users traveling less than 120 kilometers per hour in urban outdoor environments.
Limited Mobility
At least 2 Mbps with low mobility (less than 10 kilometers per hour) in stationary indoor and short range outdoor environments These kinds of maximum data rates that are often talked about when illustrating the potential for 3G technology will only therefore be available in stationary indoor environments.
RE: 3G Fake
By the time the initial CDMA2000 and GSM-GPRS-EDGE are fully implemented they will deliver the clock speeds you quote in your post.
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Thursday Availability of Treo300
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RE: sheez - might as well buy a palm m515
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RE: sheez - might as well buy a palm m515
Samsung i330 to be one of new Print PCS phones
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