Palm To Have Largest Bluetooth Network in the U.S.
Pico Communications is going to install PicoBlue Internet Access Points in both the Palm Solutions Group's new offices in Milpitas and in PalmSource's new offices in Sunnyvale, both in California. This is expected to be the largest Bluetooth wireless network in the U.S. and the largest enterprise Bluetooth network in the world. It will be operational later this month.
The access points will provide coverage in four buildings, totalling over 160,000 square feet. Employees will be able to access the Internet and email and HotSync from virtually anywhere in those four buildings using Palm's Bluetooth SD card.
"After reviewing several vendors' products, we selected Pico Communications because of its 100-meter range, capacity, speed, interoperability with a wide range of clients and ease of use," commented Mike Allison, director of Computer and Network Systems at Palm, Inc.
Palm Solutions Group employees in the U.K., France, and Germany already use PicoBlue Access Points to connect their handhelds to the network while in the office and Bluetooth-equipped GPRS phones to connect their handhelds when out of the office.
The PicoBlue Internet Access Point costs about $500. The Palm Bluetooth SD Card costs about $130.
Thanks to scouter075 for the tip. -Ed
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RE: Great way to spend money
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I guess at $500 per access point, it's really not a bad deal for a big company.
Now all Sony has to do is have some people sit in their cars in the Palm parking lot with their InfoStick equipped Clies and do a little corporate intelligence gathering.
RE: Great way to spend money
Something we guys in the UK have a rather lot off. Perhaps it was originally from over the pond (spin for vast ocean).
Now the question is: is this a subtle way of advertising OS5 and its built in blue tooth? Or is that really spinning out of control?
RE: Great way to spend money
Bluetooth on Palm is making it built-in.
ted
RE: Great way to spend money
I really think Palm could find different ways to use their money for their good than this. I can understand Placing Bluetoth in one of their buildings, but all of them? Isn't this kinda like a story where a corperation has all kinds of money to spend and they build an 18 hole golf course right behind their building so their execs and other people can get a quick round before days start and end? Becuase I feel Palm is doing the same thing here. Probably very few at Palm would use this for real outside of R&D and perhaps a few of the exec people, but do all the buildings just makes me feel like they are doing it for ohhs and ahhs than for any other real reasons.
I am shocked that no one at Palm has no forsight see the problem, and expense that they are about to get themselves into here.
Just my 4 and 1/2 Cents worth.
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RE: Great way to spend money
I would consider it as a test bed for built in BT, but also a way to improve Palm's efficiency.
If you've never had access to wireless on your PDA you have no idea how handy it can be. I used a Minstrel on my PVx for three years and was totally addicted. If I could have the same access within my work environment I would jump at the chance.
Mike
RE: Great way to spend money
: also a way to improve Palm's efficiency.
That's what I was thinking too. Wouldn't this be an indirect way of investing in R&D? What better way to test and work out the kinks of BT technology than to integrate and use it within your company.
In a sort of real world environment, rather than controlled test labs.
Jim
RE: Great way to spend money
And I agree about this beign part of their R&D. There's no better way to demostrate an idea than to use it yourself.
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And now you're going to tell us you're running a course on that for the low low price of $199us?
RE: Great way to spend money
So recalculating based on that (and not the 300sqft - where the heck did you get that?) you get on the order of 20 APs. Add a few for their thick walled conf rooms and exec office, and you'll probably get 30-40 APs.
Not really that big a spend when you think about it. And probably a big productivity booster, since as someone else mentions, not all of them get freebie i705s. Many of their folks are probably on campus most of the time so that local coverage is good enough.
RE: Great way to spend money
Sorry, your math doesn't check. Each access point doesn't cover just 100 sq meters. Each one's coverage has a radius of 100 meters or 300 feet.
That's 3.14 x 300 ft ^2 = 282,600 sq. feet.
So one could do it easily. :) Of course, walls will greatly reduce the coverage area.
RE: Great way to spend money
Maybe not, but I know how to make the stock price go up. Doing a 1 for 20 stock split will make the stock price go up twenty fold. I'll be on the cover of Fortune magazine.
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David
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So one could do it easily. :) Of course, walls will greatly reduce the coverage area."
Wha? pi x 300 is 942 Sq. feet. You're saying the largest BT network in the US could be comprised of one access point?
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> Wha? pi x 300 is 942 Sq. feet.
300 feet is the radius. The formula for the area of a circle is Pi * r^2. You didn't square the radius.
> You're saying the largest BT network in the US could be comprised of one access point?
Like I said, that's with no walls ceilings or floors to interfere. In reality, there will need to be many more, if for no other reason that only 7 (or is it 8) people can use a single Pico access point at a time.
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BT SD card? Yeah right.
RE: BT SD card? Yeah right.
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RE: BT SD card? Yeah right.
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David
Its also possible.
Yes, they could do 802.11 but, since I would guess every Palm employee gets a Palm, and with the new network a bluetooth card, it could be pretty cool.
No, I know they don't have to, but. Sometimes, companies do stuff cause its cool. Sometimes, its not just about the almighty buck. The almighty buck has completly taken over all decisions at my company so, I want to belive its true
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RE: Its also possible.
Handhelds were made to store some phone numbers. A laptop is what you should get for anything more. Sound silly? Of course, but that's the arguement you are making about Bluetooth and WiFi. No matter what the developers of Bluetooth "meant" it to be used for, it has grown beyond that.
Both Bluetooth and WiFi work for wireless net access. Until someone comes up with a way for 802.11 to use as little power as Bluetooth does, some will prefer Bluetooth.
RE: Its also possible.
I suppose you can cite the power consumption of the SD Bluetooth card? I know I've certainly been digging for that. My own PalmOS PDA uses around 45mA with a CF Symbol WiFi card active. Without the card it uses around 33mA (no backlight in either case). Thus the card itself is using about 12mA.
If you look at Socket's CF bluetooth card (Toshiba makes the BT components for both Palm's SD Bluetooth,
and Socket's CF Bluetooth), you see the specs quote power consumption as:
16mA idle
40mA typical
90mA maximum
http://makeashorterlink.com/?O5D6225B1
Also Sharps BT CF products list consumption in the 46-80mA range.
http://sharp-world.com/corporate/news/010131.html
It may well be that the SD version uses less power yet, though I'd like to read those numbers to prove it. But even if it does, I can still get well within the general BT specs of 30mA typical usage with my WiFi setup.
Sure I can make the card use more. Turning Power saving down 5 notches I'm up around 100mA (133-33). But then the above numbers would show BT can go nearly that high as well.
There are plenty of nifty things that Bluetooth can do, but let's start talking about those and less about the power issue. My backlight uses more power than my CF WiFi card, so lets put the power issue, in large part, to bed and talk about the more interesting details.
-Craig Bowers
RE: Its also possible.
So using BT just as you would 802.11 is entirely possible.
Good move - the best way to promote a technology is to actually use it yourself (eat your own dog food!). OK, so Palm don't own BT, but they are heavy supporters of it in the handheld space - this increases their perceived support. It's all good.
RE: Its also possible.
And it's still their main SDIO option to legitimize their SD slot, so they pretty well have to dance with the one wa't brung 'ya (so to speak)
Bluetooth is dead. Give us 802.11
RE: Its also possible.
12 with the card active - as in you're actually measuring that 12 while you are transferring over the card? I don't mean transferring, then popping over to a battery monitoring program when it's finished, and checking.
(like I said, take no offense, just clarifying. may be too late for anyone to come back and read this)
RE: Its also possible.
There are only about 3 printer companies. Only HP is known for that kind of innovation. Maybe his keyboard won't let him type HP. BTW, when is this HP printer coming out?
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RE: Its also possible.
RE: Its also possible.
Bluetooth printer adapters - turn any printer into a bluetooth enabled printer.
What a surprise: Done this a years ago!!!
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