Rumor: More Info on Palm Zire and Palm Tungsten
Over the past several weeks information has begun to surface on two new handhelds coming soon from Palm Inc. A bit more has been found in the inventory computer system of a major electronics retailer.
The high-end model shows up in the system under the name Palm Tungsten along with a few new details. The inventory system shows that it has 16 MB of RAM and also says Cradle Included. The Tungsten has a suggested retail price of $499.99 but the system doesn't show a possible release date. It has a model number of P80850US.
According to other sources, the Tungsten be the first model from Palm to run Palm OS 5. It runs the Texas Instruments OMAP1510 processor, which runs at 175 MHz. It has a 320 by 320 screen, an SD slot, and built-in Bluetooth. It has the same shape as the Oslo prototype, a picture which was leaked this summer.
Palm OS 5 has multimedia support built into it and the Tungsten takes full advantage of it. It has a microphone, headphone jack, and speaker. According to one source it will be available in late October, though its announcement may be around the middle of October.
Palm Zire The entry-level model has no details in the electronics retailer's computer system except for the name, the Palm Zire, a possible release date of October 13, and the suggested retail price of $99.99. The Palm Zire has a model number of P80707US.
The Zire is Palm's attempt to capture the low-end market. According to sources, it is a bare-bones model with 2 MB of RAM and two hardware buttons instead of the usual four. It will run Palm OS 4.1.
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RE: more memory!
RE: more memory!
You can add 256 MB SD cards if you want more memory !
16 MB would not hinder me from buying this Palm. But a mediocre screen like on the m130 would ...
Lets wait and see whether Palm can beat the SonyEricsson P800 !!
RE: more memory!
the new programs are probably going to take up more ram anyways...so 16megs will definitely not do...
64 is already on the low end...
yeah right!
Get a clue, little nerd-boy.
RE: more memory!
Applications that currently run on an m505 use LESS than 256kB of R/W RAM. That's all that is available; the rest is write-protected database storage (simulated ROM). Even the Sony nr70 allows less than 1 MB of application heap. Using more power-consuming DRAM to emulate zero-static-power flash is just a waste. If anything, they should add another slot for more MMC cards or memory sticks.
RE: more memory!
16mb would be OK. BUT what really concerns me is that if we all pay this much for a Palm, with the avent that OS6 is around the corner to upgrade to, I would assume we will want more than 16mb for OS6.
BB
16M, again?!
You gotta be kidding.
Whom to be blamed this time? Definitely not DragonBall processor!
RE: more memory!
RE: more memory!
SD card with VFS does not equal to increased RAM. You are recommended to treat it like floppy disk. As many programs do not support VFS and moving them to card will give you a nasty supprise!
For details of VFS, you may refer to latest issue of Palm Tipsheet 34 - September 2002.
Multimedia?
Does it play MP3's. Does it support full motion video?
RE: Multimedia?
RE: Multimedia?
I also tried the waaaaay overpriced FM headset for my Motorola cell phone. A nice novelty for sure, but once again, a cheap little Sony or Aiwa can do a far better job. There's no reason (other than pure greed) that you should have to buy a proprietary headset for the Motorola to access the built in tuner. Simply plugging any 1/8 headphone connector into the phone's headset port should activate the radio. Also, you don't have to worry about getting one of those cheap-o units wet/broken/lost etc.
Zire the same MSRP as m105???
If the Zire was $50, I guess it might make sense. Well, maybe the rumors are wrong. Or the price. We'll see. It's hard to imagine why Palm would do this (oops, sorry, I opened the door to massive Palm bashing).
RE: Zire the same MSRP as m105???
RE: Zire the same MSRP as m105???
RE: Zire the same MSRP as m105???
- A total misjudgement of the sophistication of market and an insult to the customers' intelligence.
What Happened To All The Other Comments?
RE: What Happened To All The Other Comments?
RE: What Happened To All The Other Comments?
RE: What Happened To All The Other Comments?
RE: What Happened To All The Other Comments?
RE: What Happened To All The Other Comments?
Those screaming about "video/audio/color/wireless/ice cream maker/etc." enabled in one pda are lost golf balls in the high weeds of dreamland. OK buy it, BUT after.. - Oops, sorry my battery just died while watching my 10 minute low-resolution mov.. Oops again, my battery died while trying to write this and listen to my MP3 enabled handheld for a few minutes. And the story goes on - DUH HUH, IT'S ALL ABOUT BATTERIES AND A LITTLE THING CALLED "I REALLY NEED MY PDA TO WORK ALL DAY ON A SINGLE CHARGE".
RE: What Happened To All The Other Comments?
_found_ ?
found? Ed, have you got spies in all the retailers of the states or what? ;)
all your inventories are belong to us!
RE: _found_ ?
SMARTPHONE
I AM ALREADY DESPERATE WAITING FOR THE PALM SMARTPHONE. IS ALREADY THINKING SWITHCHING TO OTHER OS LIKE POCKET PC OR SYMBIAN OS.
RE: SMARTPHONE
RE: SMARTPHONE
Take off capslock, please.
RE: SMARTPHONE
RE: SMARTPHONE
Color i705?
RE: Color i705?
Q - doesn't anybody know the differance in functionability between a 705 or a bluetooth connection between pda and phone.
RE: Color i705?
Palm [hardware side] releases devices in a smart, non-consumer pleasing type of way. They are committed to releasing devices that balance good battery life, solid applications, and [sometimes questionable but] good reliablity. For them to release a color i705 with battey technology still not great, good but not great, for a wireless color device, goes somewhat against their philosophy. Sure you have Sony that doesnt really care about battery life except in low-end devices and after the second or third version of a particular product. But they are a consumer driven type of company. They will go to please the consumer faster [more capital toward r&d makes that possible too] than Palm. When Palm releases a device they need to have a good slugging percentage else they will have been bankrupt a long time ago.
A color i705 is probably in the works. Probably not in a OS4 form, but more in the format of a Oslo type device with more wireless ready features for a more mature wireless network. Do we all want it now, sure. But wait, let patience have its perfect work that you will not have to upgrade every year.
In terms of the low cost Zire. It is probably designed to be sold @ $50 before the end of its run. The m100/m105 wasnt. Therefore it is more expensive to produce that device. Rather, Palm would use some of the hardware that is now cheaper because of the broader use of the universal connector and other OS4 specific stuff. The device should be differnt and should 'look' like a cheapy device. But I would like to see Palm develop some consumer accessories for it like the mp3 player and game conrtoller. It would fit within their philosophy.
Thats the end of my long post. I post infrequently and read here a lot. I was always told that a wise man speaks slowly and considers his words. I hope that you all do the same in the rest of your discussions.
Palm, you are too late and too slow.
I suppose for those wanting to better stretch your money, wait for the Sony to come out with better features and if Sony can do such a great job for its many model with just using OS 4.x, imagine what can it do for OS 5?
What's New with Tungsten
RE: What's New with Tungsten
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more memory!