Sony Clie SJ33 Announced in HK and Japan

Which is a good thing... I passed on the T615 for that reason. If this device had been around I probably would have bought Sony.

I still think this is too much. For $299, you get an iPAQ h1910 that is smaller and lighter, has 48MB of usable RAM and a replacable battery.

This would be great at $200-250 or so, but $320? I wonder if this has the new Memstick Pro.

dont forget how fast the price drops some on these models...

and 16mb of palm memory is almost like having 48mb of PPC memory

I agree its a great device, but PPC is finally making serious inroads to the Palm domain, it used to be that Palms were very affordable, but now for $200 you can walk away w/ a nice Dell Axim X5 @ 300mhz. [this is of course not counting all the PPC OS issues] it really hit me when my friend was looking for a PDA for his girlfriend for christmas. he set his limit @ $200. & the Dell offered the biggest bang for the buck, color screen [16bit infact, not the 12bit m130 stuff], the ability to play MP3's, there really wasn't anything comparable in the palm version. I'm disappointed that Palm device are now the higher price tag item, i can see them becoming like macs [eventually, though that isn't the case right now] [also before everyone brands me as a PPC yahoo, be it known that i have an M125 & a Clie T615 & love them both & look to stay w/ Palm OS devices, but for the new comers, PPC makes a compelling lower to midrange arument] Just somethings to think about !

:: dk ::

>>I still think this is too much. For $299, you get an iPAQ h1910 that is smaller and lighter, has 48MB of usable RAM and a replacable battery.

This would be great at $200-250 or so, but $320?

Yes, but that's for a PPC device. It has an OS that few use and even fewer like. If someone is upgrading to this unit, chances are they're coming from a Palm OS unit already. They'll pay a $50 premium for that.

If they haven't used a PDA before and they play with this and the HP unit in the store, I'll bet I know which one 8 out 10 people are going to go the checkout counter with.

Yes sony does seem to have a tendency to make their stuff rather pricey. And with DELL now in the Arena on the PPC side, the price wars don't look too good for the palm side of things.

Sony has just upgraded the S series so the T665 will probably be phased out sometime soon considering the rate at which Sony pumps out new devices(Go Sony). Hopefully the next T model will use OS5?

xolstis

Palm is now going the same road as MAC, while PPC is following the road as IBM Compatible PC. High price? Who care? Maybe right as this time, but surely not for the future.

Is there really a 16 mb limit?
It seems that way when you see sony not exceed 16 even with these crazy amazing devices but ... how then is the garmin ique 3600 comes with 32 mb?
I am wanting this garmin device more & more. I'll never use the gps but i want the 32 mb & 320 X 480 screen so bad it seems worth it.

"Now Palm has the 16M barrier to overcome,"

The 16Mb barrier no longer exists for Palm OS... they are just following their typical pattern of releasing a device, then releasing an upgraded version with more RAM.

Fzara2000 wrote:
You should definitely understand that the price wars in the PPC camp arent hurting the Palm OS sales as much as they are hurting the PPC sales of other manufacturers.

You;re probably right there, the AXIM probably has got the ppl up at HP more worried than those at palm and sony. But still, one must admit new users coming to the world of PDAs will be very tempted to compare the ARM processors and 64MB of RAM which are the standard of most PPCs as compared to those of palm. Of course WE ALL KNOW that 64MB and a 200MHz ARM is very much comparable to a 66MHz Dragonball with 16MBs or RAM on a palm, but new users? True there are now ARM processors on palms but its so far limited to just 2 models if I'm not wrong.

Think the zire was a good move by palm for my part. Of course I personally think its a joke having used other devices before, but its a good attempt to capture the hearts(and pockets) of new users....and chances are their next upgrade will be a higher end Palm and not a PPC = ).

xolstis

The specs are identical to the T665 - 66mhz,mp3,16mb ram, 320x320, OS 4.1, etc. The only thing different is the case. Am i missing something? I guess this is just Sonys attempt to reorganize their 'branding'. No more t series?

Actually this looks a little better than the t665.

The Headphone outlet is placed at the top of the device which is a minor annoyance with the t665 that I have being on the side.

The price point is $100 less than the original t665 price (I would imagine that getting this for $250 will be easy.)

I can't tell, but the up down rocker looks like a D-Pad in other pictures I've seen.

The battery life is VERY much improved and this is a big deal, that is the largest complaint I have about the t665 is that I must continually charge it.

-Biff K

It's not a D-Pad form this picture:
http://www.sonystyle.com.hk/clie/sj33/popup/image/hd_front.jpg

the up and down scroll buttons are half circles and the middle is a power light.

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Too bad about the D-pad. Did Palm copywright it? How long will Palm get to keep it before it is rolled into the OS?

Haha yeah asiayeah, maybe u can change your quote to:

"With great (processing)power comes great battery draw" ???? = )

xolstis

There is always Converter 2.1 by Matt Marsh for Palm OS... good app and free :)

Its casing has been redesigned. It is now 4.2 by 2.9 by .9 inches including the integrated flip cover. It will come in three colors: Azure Blue, Lucent Black, and Flame Orange. It weighs 7.8 ounces.

this paste is from brighthand. Its heavier then you guys thought.

May the Palm os be with you

*sigh* thats cutting pretty heavy, using a visor prism which is just a tad over 200g I think, feels like a brick in my pocket..... = (

xolstis