Palm Slashes Prices, TT now $399

That's a rhetorical question, right?

We could have waited, but we had to have a TT RIGHT THEN. Place a nice game of MegaSoft Billiards and be at peace with your early purchase.

Depends on when and where you bought it. Many places have "Price Match" guarantees and most such "Price Match" guarantees include a "within 30-days" clause. So if you did purchase it from a place with a Price Match guarantee within 30-days ago, you should be able to get such a refund.

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You can test your own digitizer yourself by doing the following.

1. Create a new note in notepad
2. start to draw a line starting above the delete button. Bring your stylus up to the menu word "note" (do not take the stylus off the screen until you have finished step 5)
3. You should now have a line from above delete to where the draw area ends..
4. Now continue dragging the stylus over to the categories indicator (default is "Unfiled")
5. Now continue dragging the stylus back to where you started.
6. If your unit is good you will now have a three sided triangle. If you have a bad unit you will only have a line from above the delete button to the "note" menu option. And the second line down will not exist.

The problem is along the top the of the screen the digitizer on some units just doesn't work correctly! Contact palm and tell them the same thing I told you here. They will test it on there Palm Emulator on there computer and will see it needs to be a triangle. And not just one line.

Hope this helps some people out! I was thinking of putting images on my web page so other people can see the problem and know how to test the unit. Also you can get a program called "Ak Stylus" and it will allow you to test it. Just use the program and drag your stylus along the top of the screen and you will see that it will drop out at times and stop working if you have a bad digitizer on your Tungsten.

Good luck,
Bobby

Lemon

You misspelt: Palm - realizing thet they've once again released a single device that is outselling other companies' entire PDA lineups

Frankly, overall, the guy is not off mark, if you ask me.

The price being too high is probably a matter of opinion, but let's be honest here... there are LAPTOPS that can be had for less than twice what a Tungsten started out at.

As far as problems, while I'm not sure what the poster was referring to regarding the "Toggle," the TT has certainly been plagued with quite a few (hopefully youth) problems:

The digitizer - I've seen it with my own eyes and tried it with my own hands, it was so annoying I wouldn't have paid $50 for that particular handheld (I don't mean a TT in general, I mean one with a digitizer problem)

The Slider - again, seen it with my own eyes, the "self-retracting TT" ... that feature was not well thought out if you ask me... they should have implemented the little spring-loaded balls with grooves so that the handheld would stay securely OPEN or CLOSED based on the user's desires, not based on just how lucky you were when you picked your TT box.

Dust - Once again, seen it with my own eyes. any TT user can see it for themselves by making the screen black and keeping the backlight on. Some are luckier than others. Hopefully Palm either HAS or WILL take measures to ensure that no dust that isn't already in there can get in there. So far some reports have said otherwise.

Sound Issue - Sure, this *SHOULD* be fixed by the patch, but my coworker downloaded the patch and installed it and now MP3s sound better (though nothing like a coworker's Sony) but his alarms sound about the same loudness as my Vx's alarms do when my Vx is 3-4 times farther.

As far as "what will Palm do" ... unfortunatelly the poster (IMHO) may be right.

Palm released the Half-A$$ fix M515 after releasing the 505... meanwhile Sony'd been pushing HiRes for some time... not to mention that the M515 only solved one of the 505's shortcomings (screen brightness) while not solving SUDS, and giving up one EXCELLENT FEATURE of the 505 (lit graffiti area).

So, as a Palm fan myself, I'm hoping they get back on track (if you asked me the quality went down when they spun off 3Com... I haven't heard of endemic problems with the Vx, IIIc, IIIx, III, Pro etc... as soon as Palm spun off we got all sorts of things:

Suds, 12bit screens, dim screens, dust...

Here's hoping someone gives a nice tug to Palm's wheel and steers the ship back on course.

If there's one thing I miss from Palm's Vx/m5xx design, it's the slide-in flip leather cover. So far, I have yet to find a cover that I'm comfortable with on my Tungsten. Even though I use the supplied clear plastic cover, it just doesn't feel natural to use when clipped onto the back. So, I end up just taking it off on use.

I also blindly invested in a Scuba Sleeve from Palm. My advice for those contemplating purchasing this crap cover: Don't bother.

: Is anyone else as manic about size as I am?

/me raises hand. :)

Jim

If you are that stuck on the size of the V, why not go for the M515? Leather flip cover, more AVAILABLE memory than any other Palm, and more than twice the speed of the V. Not to mention color, faster hotsyncs, better buttons, and expansion. The TT2 is not going to be any smaller.

For the ultimate size reduction, get a Fossil and remove the band :)

You forgot lack of SDIO and incompatiblility with all other iPAQ expansion. And don't forget the fact that its s-l-o-w : 200mhz XScale is slower then 200mhz strongARM and significantly slower (if i understand correctly) than TI OMAP (especially one running Palm OS 5). I read recently: TT with OMAP(w/integrated DSP) = 575 MIPS vs. 400mhz XScale = 480 MIPS.

What advantage does the 1910 have over the TT (aside form the price - which as this whole article points out - is becoming less of an issue). The only place where the 1910 wins is size (longer but thinner and less width) and virtual graffiti. I'll take the faster, better OS (couldn't resist...), nicer looking, higher-res, better battery life TT anyday.

I've had my m500 for the last year and a half and will not give it up until the next TT has a leather flip cover. Thanks for the scoop on the scuba cover, I've been trying to find out what it looks like at any other angle besides the single image that every website posts.
Why not upgrade to m515? Because what use is the color if you can't do anything with it? Okay so its a little, I repeat, a little more colorful, but that's all!

You may want to double check the test results, as they were done with the screen at 75%, not 100%, and the volume was on low at 25%. Also, are you claiming that the T|T cannot run for 2 hours and 20 minutes, or that the T|T cannot run a video file? Even though my device is not in the same league as the iPaq or the T|T, it ran the same test for over 5 and a half hours. I don't recall the T|T being THAT much worse than the M515.

Also interesting in the 1910 test is that it could not make it 4 hours, even with the screen turned OFF. Can anyone comment on comparative T|T tests?

Wow, is this not the most thoughtless comment I have ever read. Do you know what personal preference is? Everyone has different needs. Just because a T|T works for Julie and Judie doesn't mean it will work for Joe Guy over there.

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Mario Masitti
O/T Mod
I Love Tennis :)

You may want to double check the test results, as they were done with the screen at 75%, not 100%, and the volume was on low at 25%. Also, are you claiming that the T|T cannot run for 2 hours and 20 minutes, or that the T|T cannot run a video file? Even though my device is not in the same league as the iPaq or the T|T, it ran the same test for over 5 and a half hours. I don't recall the T|T being THAT much worse than the M515.
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No T|T cannot run 2:20 matching the gadgeteer condition. It is 75% brightness of transreflectivescreen, and continuous .mp3 with 25% built in speaker. One of the loudest in the market. The second set of test by Gadgeteer was conducted before the existence of OC utilities, something now commonly used to enhance h1910 mp3 mp3 battery endurance.

T|T is also incapable to run standard .wmf/.mpeg test. Something that has been tested in h1910 for a little more than 2 hrs. The only formal test ever published in an internet review nearing the first version of gadgeteer version does not back up what you say.
http://www.infosync.no/news/2002/n/2495,2.html#OS

M515 is a different platform all together, and has sub par features offering compared to ARM class PDAs.