Clie CF Memory Card Drivers Released

Posted By: Ryan Tuesday, April 22, 2003 10:20:55 AM

EruWare has released a Compact Flash Storage Card Driver for the Sony Clie. This driver enables Clie models PEG-NX60, PEG-NX70V, and PEG-NZ90 to use the CompactFlash slot with standard CF memory.

The new driver allows most CF memory cards to be used in the models with the CF slot, which was previously only used for the Sony Wireless Expansion card. CF cards from 2 MB to 1 GB can now be used with the PEG-NX60, PEG-NX70V, and PEG-NZ90 models.

Clie CF DriverA utility program is provided with the driver that allows users to auto-mount cards (making the functioning of the CF cards as transparent as Memory Sticks). This utility also allows users to make the CompactFlash slot behave as though it were the MemoryStick slot on the Clie, thereby allowing access to selected built-in applications such as Audio Player and Movie Player.

According to EruWare, applications that have multi-volume storage card support will already support the driver and others are working to supporting it. If an application does not have multi-volume support, you can usually take out the Memory Stick to make the application work through “Memory Stick Masquerading”. There is a FAQ and a list of working cards on the site.

EruWare plans to continue to add features to the driver as well as to the utility. All purchasers of the driver are entitled to free lifetime upgrades of the driver. The driver is priced at US $27.00 and is available now.

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just a question

afterkat @ 4/22/2003 11:15:53 AM #
why can palm m515 an os 4 device be able to access a 256mb sd card thru a software patch but a sony clie device that is os 4.0 cant access a 256 mb memory stick?

RE: just a question
pontif @ 4/22/2003 12:59:55 PM #
Because the SD card interface didn't change.

To go beyond 128MB, they had to change the MemoryStick interface. It looks the same, but works differently, and requires slightly different hardware talking to the memory stick. The NX and NZ's can talk to the new sticks because they already have the new controllers.

RE: just a question
jbeedham @ 4/22/2003 8:42:07 PM #
Here is the answer. SD Memory has the controller built into the card. So there is no limit to how much memory they can fit in an SD card. Now as for memory sticks, including memory stick pro, the controller is not built into the card. So the cards are limited by what the controllers in the units can do. Memory Stick maxes at 128 MB and I believe Memory Stick Pro maxes around 30 GB. While 30 GB's may seem like a lot now, I bet you will hear people complaining in 10 years how that is not enough. Because of that I will not invest any money into Memory Sticks.

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currently using Palm m125 and waiting for Garmin iQue.

Oh Goodie!!!

i2oadi2unnei2 @ 4/22/2003 11:27:27 AM #
Now I can go out and buy a cheaper 'memory card' then the MSPro and use my CLIE to its fullest extent! I've been waiting for this driver to come out and its finally here! I know I will fill up a 1GB CF in a jiffy because I have so many documents I'd love to lug around in my PDA because I'm too cheap to buy a laptop *GRIN*...

...|3eep |3eep!!...

RE: Oh Goodie!!!
ganoe @ 4/22/2003 1:47:51 PM #
> because I'm too cheap to buy a laptop *GRIN*...

I assume by the *GRIN* you understand that for the cost of one of these Sony devices and a 1GB CF card you could've easily bought a laptop with many GB to spare and probably longer battery life to boot.

RE: Oh Goodie!!!
i2oadi2unnei2 @ 4/22/2003 5:58:57 PM #
True, but I still admit I'm cheap * G R I N *

...|3eep |3eep!!...

RE: Oh Goodie!!!
nuopus @ 4/22/2003 6:50:42 PM #
For someone who maybe owns a PDA you sure do not get the point of having one. If a device was small enough, and costs $1200 yet can do everything I need to do and then some .. I would buy it INSTEAD of a laptop. I need to stay mobile. People pay more money to go smaller when it comes to devices ... thats it.

I know I can buy a Laptop for $1200 with a 20gig HD, but thats not the point. The point is there is no case I can buy that straps the laptop comfortably to my leg so I can take it anywhere. Laptops just arent as portable ... sure you can take it with you. BUT ... as for laptop size you would not take it on small errands to the store, or a small errand to the office or when you go to the park to walk around.

Several times I have found the need for my PDA at the park. Seeing an old friend to exchange notes and phone numbers .. or when I need notes for anything. You cant whip out your laptop, go to the application and take notes in under 5 seconds while strolling at the mall now can you?

RE: Oh Goodie!!!
i2oadi2unnei2 @ 4/23/2003 1:02:06 PM #
If you are refering to me, I can type up an entire page of why and why not I prefer a PDA over a laptop. Take it easy on me, just because I say I'm cheap does not necessary mean that I'm a tight wad *GRIN*. I'm not taking this personal, just a constructive critisim. I by the use my PDA just like you do...

...|3eep |3eep!!...

Boo-YA!

aerofault @ 4/22/2003 11:35:46 AM #
This is a ****ingly fantastic achievement and a nice little mark on Clie users' score card. Now you can have 2 GB of storage on your device! Hopefully support for Kinoma is in the works; it would be great to have an entire near-DVD quality widescreen movie (or two, or three!) with you on those long, boring Amtrak rides >:)

Victory!

RE: Boo-YA!
i2oadi2unnei2 @ 4/22/2003 11:43:36 AM #
Oh yeah I second that! DVD-PDA Player on my Clie sounds so sweet! I totally forgot about Kinoma! LOL

...|3eep |3eep!!...

RE: Boo-YA!
Token User @ 4/22/2003 11:52:15 AM #
FWIW - I was a beta tester, and happily run Kinoma encoded files from my 1GB Microdrive 8^). The Microdrive is not the fastest CF Memory option out there, but I have not detected any lag in reading movie files from the device.

One caveat is that the Microdrive consumes 10x the power of a CF Memory option, so the battery time is reduced as well. Thats just the nature of the beast. There are soid state memory options which comsume less power and push the 1GB envelope as well.

~ "Don't be too proud of this technological terror you've constructed." - DV ~

I was a naysayer

dwarchbold @ 4/22/2003 12:24:32 PM #
I figured this was a April Fools joke when the beta was first announced. I'm very happy to have been proven wrong! :)

Dropped by $27 and I've already received the registration code. This driver works **perfectly**.

Good job guys!

Battery life?

Dryden @ 4/22/2003 3:12:47 PM #
Can anyone who has used this comment on what kind of battery life they're getting listening to MP3's off of the CF card?

Camera on NZ-90?

megazone @ 4/23/2003 1:06:09 AM #
I've been eying the NZ-90 to solve my quest for a new Palm and a digital camera. I'm not a huge photo buff, so 2-megapixels should be fine for me.

I'm curious - anyone try this driver with the camera yet? Can the photo application use CF cards to save the pics instead of MS?

I wonder if this works with CF adapters for other formats - like CF to MMC, etc. Or if they would require further development.

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RE: Camera on NZ-90?
Homie S @ 4/23/2003 11:35:27 AM #

They actually tested an adapter and found it to have worked. Go check out the list on the website. Dunno if it was MMC or not, but I remember seeing one.

RE: Camera on NZ-90?
little-man @ 4/26/2003 3:47:32 PM #
I'm fairly sure it would work with the camera, especially if you put it in masquerading mode. As for CF to other memory adaptors, I know that a CF to SD adaptor has been tested and works. I don't think any others have been tested yet, but I don't see why they wouldn't work.

Compatible Applications!?

rjen @ 4/24/2003 7:43:24 AM #
As EruWare notes, applications must have "multi-volume" support to access data files through the driver. Can someone start a web page with lists of programs that:

* Work (note that any application that has no data files should work, so don't bother listing those)

* Work in MS Masquerading mode (no access to your MS until next warm boot)

* Work but with problems

* Don't work at all?


(Any application that used VFS code based on Palm's sample source code should have a good chance of working. That's what I used in my freeware and shareware applications <http://www.rjen.com>, and they work great.)


I'll start the lists with what I have on my NX70V (everything else I have either has no data files or doesn't work with the memory stick either):


WORK
----
BabyMelodyPilot 1.3.0 <http://www.rjen.com/Pilot/BabyMelodyPilot.html> shareware
FileMan 2.2 <http://www.bitsnbolts.com> commercial
FileZ 5.22 <http://www.nosleep.net> freeware
MOTOR 1.1.0 <http://www.rjen.com/Pilot/MOTOR.html> freeware
PalmReader 1.2.4 <http://www.palm.com> freeware
Shanghai 1.1 <http://www.landware.com> commercial
Triv 3.4.3 <http://www.rjen.com/Pilot/Triv.html> shareware


MASQUERADING NEEDED
-------------------
AudioPlayer 3.0 (bundled by Sony)
Voice Recorder 1.0 (bundled by Sony)


WORKS BUT PROBLEMS
------------------
Movie Player 1.0 (bundled by Sony)
SplashPhoto 3.62 <http://www.splashdata.com> The "Move Images" menu option won't let you move a file from MS to CF or vice versa


DOESN'T WORK
------------
Flash Player 5 1.0 <http://www.macromedia.com> (lists files but won't run them)

Robert Jen (rjen@rjen.com)

RE: Compatible Applications!?
rjen @ 4/24/2003 1:00:03 PM #
Sorry, quick correction. Flash Player should have been listed in the "MASQUERADING NEEDED" section.

Robert Jen (rjen@rjen.com)

Cf driver has new competition

Insidetrack @ 10/19/2003 1:57:05 PM #
I see there is a not so new kid in town. Amir Yasin (formerly of Eruware) has written and is selling a driver on Handango called CF Magic. It looks targeted to be out there for people that haven't bought the Eruware driver and don't want to use the questionable "hacked" drivers that are available. Anyone reviewing it?

what hardware do I use?

adove @ 10/19/2004 3:39:46 PM #
I am extremely interested in this product, but I still need some hardware accessory to install/insert CF media in my Clie'. I use a PEG-NX70V/U Clie'. Please let me know what I need in order to use Compact Flash with my Clie' AND where I can buy it. Thank you.

Alex

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