Legend Pam 168 Now Available in China
China's largest PC firm, Legend Group, is now selling a Chinese language Palm OS handheld in China. The Legend Pam 168 features a color screen, MP3 player, dictionary and voice recorder.
The Legend Pam 168 has a 3.5 inch, 240 x 320 pixel screen that can display over 65,000 colors. It has a "virtual graffiti" area which can be hidden to allow full screen photos and ebooks.
The processor is a Motorola SuperVZ 66MHz. It has 16MB of storage RAM and 16MB Flash ROM. It also includes a SD/MMC memory card expansion slot and jog-dial for on screen scrolling.
It is powered by a rechargeable 810mAh Lithium-Ion battery. The battery life is rated to last through 20 hours of MP3 playing with the screen off. The unit includes headphones with built in volume controls.
It’s dimensions are (L)120mm x (W)74mm x (D)12.5mm (4.72 x 2.9 x .5 inches) and it weights 125g (4.4 oz).
It runs Palm OS 4.1 and users can choose between Simplified Chinese or an English language display. In addition to the standard palm os apps, additional software includes an Infra-red messaging app, e-book reader, electronic photo album, calculator, mail and a Chinese - English Dictionary.
PalmSource's operating system would power more than half of Legend's handheld computers within a year, said Legend Vice-President Lu Yan in a previous statement. Market researcher International Data Corp has forecast China's PDA market will grow 52 percent next year.
The official price is 2800RMB (approximately US$338), and according to the website, a free 64MB MMC card and leather case will be given to buyers while stock lasts. The official product page in Chinese is here.
Thanks to Tigger_bb for help with the translation.
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RE: Screen?!
~ "Don't be too proud of this technological terror you've constructed." - DV ~
RE: Screen?!
I doubt it. It's not nearly ugly enough to be produced by Handera...
RE: Screen?!
I think that there is a profitable niche of the "upper low end" of the market for handhelds running OS 4.x and utilizing the 66mhz Dragonball that has not been fully tapped yet. Imagine if Palm were to release something with specs like this in the m500 formfactor and price it at $200ish. Wow! A lot of folks have no problems buying a new unit that runs a previous generation OS and CPU if for no other reason than to handle legacy programs that have not been updated to be compliant with newer OS's and processors.
RE: Screen?!
If this was for sale right now in the U.S. and priced between $200 and $300, i'd snap one up in a heartbeat. It'd be the next best thing to a color Handera 330 and is (IMHO) quit a bit more stylish. Even the buttons look decent-though I would prefer the Zire 71's mini joystick thingie.
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Given that my brother often goes to China on university's business, I could ask him to get one, if it has an english interface... B-)))
RE: Screen?!
Legend is going to be a Chinese-only OEM, so it's definitely not a replacement to the HandEra. At least HandEra would've gone with HVGA to keep up with the times instead of QVGA like Legend.
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RE: Screen?!
RE: Screen?!
> 160x160->240x240) like Handera does?
Assuming it is using the now-standard Palm OS methods, the short answer should be yes.
The long answer is that there might be some slight differences in the displayed result because the implementation/APIs are slightly different. Just from what I've read and heard, there are differences in the way they defaulted handling off screen bitmaps (and there's probably some other minor differences other than just the API). Such that legacy apps looked better on the 330, but caused a few apps to not work (in contrast to the Palm OS method where those few apps would be compatible but more apps would look worse than on the 330). Hard to know without comparing.
Battery status
coop
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I thought standard was 320 X 320 & virtual needed 320 X 480.
I so want a 320 X 480 with virtual grafitti in a non clam shell style.
& that tungsten c with wifi makes me want wifi.
hopefully sony comes out with both
maybe i just want too much & should just buy a small laptop :)
RE: Battery status
I'm all "charged up" about this.
I'm "shocked".
Must be having a "power" trip.
hehe :)
RE: Battery status
I thought standard was 320 X 320 & virtual needed 320 X 480."
Apps are displayed in a 240x240 square area, with the graffiti area in the lower 80x240 portion of the 240x320. Depending on the API used, apps aware of how to use the graffiti area can use the full 240x320 area when the graffiti area is minimized.
Generally bitmaps are either scaled 1.5x from their 160x160 versions to the 240x240 size, or an alternate set of bitmaps made for 240x240 are selected (either by the app or the OS, depending on the API their screen uses).
Likely the form objects are automatically redrawn to the 240x240 size.
PalmOS allows many screen resolutions. 240x320 first arrived on PalmOS 2 years ago via the HandEra 330, however there are other non-320x480 variants on PalmOS as well, with varying degrees of 3rd party app support.
160x192, 160x240, 176x240, 560x160
RE: Battery status
Thanks for the info. I have an old steam powered (I'm kidding!, I know it's not steam powered... it uses gerbils) Palm IIIxe, which is obviously not provided with rechargable batteries.
The only time I have ever seen that "battery/lightning bolt" icon on my machine is now and then when I place it in my Rand McNally GPS sled which lives in the car.
Sometimes (maybe 1 in 30) I get that icon. I remove the palm and replace it in the sled and all is well. As there is no connection from the +V in pin on the IIIxe to the batteries I didn't consider that this was the "charging" icon. I assumed that it was telling me to change the batteries NOW, because there was a short or something.
Now I know. Thanks for the info!
coop
Not bad, but I'll pass on this one...
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US availability?
Looks like it combines the best of Pocket PC and PalmOS together in one device.
RE: US availability?
needs Bluetooth
RE: needs Bluetooth
With Bluetooth and preferable a 320x480 Screen (and possibly the Zire71 5-way stick), then add me to the distro list as well.
presently using m105 - waiting for Garmin iQue3600 with Bluetooth
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RE: needs Bluetooth
Palm V-like form factor with virtual graffiti.
168 = A path to wealth
It's interesting that Palm chose 168 as the model number. It's obvious they did some homework. It's not so much superstition -- as some people believe -- but it's more of "it sounds good" thing.
RE: 168 = A path to wealth
For those who don't speak chinese, the pinyin is bai liu ba. or, the way most americans phonetically say things its more similar to by leo bah.
Good name choice, although i must admit im not fond of using numbers at all. (thus imo, tungsten c sounds color than zire 71. no number naming nonsense)
Anyhew, in terms of # choice, 168 is a good one for the chinese market
-Pepper
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RE: 168 = A path to wealth
ok there is something morbid about all this numerology.
RE: 168 = A path to wealth
RE: 168 = A path to wealth
RE: 168 = A path to wealth
Since we are talking about mandrin, how the heck can you say 168 as "bai liu ba" ??
168 should be something like YI LU BA.
RE: 168 = A path to wealth
"but it will go 4444 nonetheless"
In Chinese "4" sounds like "death"
So, "but it will go . . . . nonetheless"
Agricola
It looks ugly and bulky to me.
I would rather spend US$399 to get a TT. and the design and style dosn't look attractive to me. I guess this is only a pilot model for Legend Group, otherwise, you can hardly see it in a bunch of new released PDAs.
RE: It looks ugly and bulky to me.
And this PDA should be about the size as the Sony N760c, the PDA it looks exactly like.
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RE: It looks ugly and bulky to me.
-Bosco
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RE: It looks ugly and bulky to me.
Current PDA: Palm Tungsten|T
First PDA: PEG-NR70V
Comments: Great form factor, but for not much more I could have an NX with value-added features out the WAZOO.... damn cumbersome layout!
RE: It looks ugly and bulky to me.
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Screen?!
Is that description correct?! Something does not sound right about that 320x240 part, especially with a hideaway Graffiti area. But it is too early in the AM for my mind to work with numbers...
Otherwise, this looks interesting. Too bad Legend's site is so slooooow to work. Got SARS?