Handspring Shows the Treo 600
updated Handspring has unveiled the Treo 600. The new model features a smaller, more phone-like design with a full QWERTY keyboard and digital camera. The Treo 600 combines a phone, and Palm OS 5-based organizer with messaging, email, and web browsing features. It is expected to become available this fall worldwide.
"In product design, making things smaller often makes the product better because it forces designers to break through old design ideas. Treo 600 truly is a breakthrough for smartphones," said Jeff Hawkins, chairman and chief product officer for Handspring. "Our team was very creative in shrinking the product to an impressively small size, while at the same time making it more powerful and easier to use. As a phone and a data device, Treo 600 delivers the best of both worlds."
The Treo 600 runs Palm OS 5.2.1 with a 144 MHz Texas Instruments OMAP processor. It will have 32MB of RAM and a SD/MMC/SDIO expansion slot. There is also a Five-way navigation dial for one handed operation. ZDNet reports that the device will use a 160x160 pixel color screen.
There will be two versions for each type of wireless network, CDMA 1XRTT and GSM/GPRS. The Treo 600 has a built-in digital camera (640 x 480 VGA), so you can take and send pictures or connect a face to a phone number with picture caller ID. It will also feature a dual speaker architecture for high-quality phone and system audio.
The Treo 600 has dimensions of 4.41 x 2.36 x .87 inches, and weighs 5.9 oz (GSM)/6.2 oz (CDMA). It will have a large capacity 1800 mAh rechargeable Lithium Ion battery for up to six hours talk time (GSM); or up to five hours talk time (CDMA); and about two weeks organizer use for both versions.
Keyboard Design
Treo 600's keyboard design makes dialing the phone and sending messages and email easier than before, even with the significantly reduced size of the product. A unique domed key shape and carefully crafted layout makes typing fast and simple. Each key on Treo 600 has more surface area than those on existing Treo products, and letters and numbers have been enlarged for better readability. In user testing for speed and accuracy of text input, Treo 600 performed on par with RIM's Blackberry keyboard and significantly faster than Graffiti handwriting recognition, found in most Palm OS handhelds, and T-9, the text input method found in most mobile phones.
The phone will also have a new proxyless version of Handspring's Blazer web browser, with support for JavaScript and downloading software. Handspring is working with carriers and business partners to prepare rich email, SMS, and MMS solutions that will be customized for specific channels and announced in more detail this summer. In the coming weeks, Handspring plans to offer free developer tools for companies to build additional software and hardware expansion solutions.
Pricing is not known but is expected to be in the $400 - $500 range, with the actual price determined by the each carrier. Treo 600 series products are expected to come at a price premium relative to current Treo offerings, and Handspring plans to offer a compelling upgrade incentive for owners of current wireless Treo products. The phone will be available though Handspring's web site and Sprint PCS in the US and Orange SA throughout Europe in the fall. Other carriers are expected to be announced later.
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Boo Hoo Hoo! Only 160 x 160 screen!
Boo Hoo Hoo! No Bluetooth!
Boo Hoo Hoo! No Toothbrush!
Boo Hoo Hoo! No enema! (for iain.collins)
Get a clue you morons. This is a PDA-Phone. Not just a PDA. Not just a phone. If you don't like it because it doesn't have some ultra-geek feature that you and the other 10 whiners here want, DON'T BUY IT. Your opinion represent about 0.000001 % of people that might want a new PDA-Phone. No-one gives a rat's arse about what you're bitching about today. When someone finally introduces a no compromise PDA-Phone for $1000, you dorks will be on here complaining about the price.
The Boo Hoo Babies are a lot worse than the PocketPC trolls could ever hope to be.
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Yeah, 160x160
I wonder how many program incompatabilities will show up now that programmers have to wonder if OS 5 is Sony+, Palm or HS-.
I don't think you understand the gravity of the situation. We're in space.
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RE: Yeah, 160x160
This has GOT to be some kind of mistake!
No way would they shoot themselves in the foot like this! would they?
with a 144mgz processor, rendering a 320X320 should be trivial. I can't imagine them doing it to save battery power either. But if this is the case, they should have an option to use either 160X160 or 320X320. Now that would be cool
I really like the looks of the device though. It seems more serious and meant for business than the current crop of PDA/fashion accessory that are all over the market.
-Marcos Vandel
Should compare rez to other "smartphones"
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RE: Yeah, 160x160
160x160 is plenty "useful"... and most likely cheaper to manufacture. if i really think back on it, I'd still be happily using my m505 if i didn't break it. Yes, 320x320 is nice. but useability wise, not totally unnecessary.
More info on the screen...
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RE: Yeah, 160x160
Of course, think of the alternative.
PPC-embedded phones don't even have a touchscreen. I'd rather program for the Palm in OS5- than know that some people will be using my programs without a touch-screen.
I don't think you understand the gravity of the situation. We're in space.
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No wonder Handspring was in trouble. This device looks fantastic but, just like all other Palm products out there, it lacks a major feature. In this case, a 320x320 screen.
RE: Yeah, 160x160
Unfortunately, this will limit the device's appeal to those who have never had a Palm OS device or those who currently have low-res screens.
Darn! Otherwise, the device looks like a winner. I only use my TT Bluetooth for wireless Internet, so I wouldn't miss it on this phone.
Shut up
RE: Yeah, 160x160
So....Just because all the other kids are doing it doesn't mean you should too, right? Seriously, 320x320 would have been a great way to differentiate themselves from the rest of the smart phone crowd (and stay ahead of the curve). They had the potential to have the only 320 x 320 phone on the market (and it's not as if the technology isn't there). As it is, Samsung is coming out with one and I bet they'll tout it's resolution over every comparable product on the market (and they should).
I don't think we should give HS a free pass here. As it is, I think the thing looks too geeky and PDA focused. Most of the phone buying population is not going to want to spend more money to look uncool and learn something more complicated than the current crop of "free" phones. Just my opinion.
Good thing for HS they merged w/Palm when they did, because this phone wouldn't have saved the company.
RE: Yeah, 160x160
Not to mention, those who just don't know what they're talking about.
I bet somebody who's not worried about a specification can hold this 600 in their hand and appreciate how fully functional it is, without SuperGeeks to tell them "160x160?! That is soooo uncool!"
It's obvious that so many critics here are experts in R&D, development, and marketing. Cracks me up.
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RE: Yeah, 160x160 and I like it
Regarding 160x160 screen I need some expert advice cuz I think that 160x160 is the size but the density may be the same as a 320x320 due to its reduced size. If so then we will have the same resolution as any other hires device.
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RE: Yeah, 160x160
Why would I down grade my old NR70V (which runs at 320x480) for *this?*
I had a Prisim with the same screen as this something like 3 years ago and have had 3 Palms since then!
I would get this tomorrow if it had 320x320, but at this res its going to be useless for me so I'm not going to - just like I haven't had a Handspring since the Visor Prisim.
The Visor Prisim and the Edge were the only really good units Handspring made. The rest were boaring the Treo battery life was too short (even once a day is not enough to keep it charged for me).
Many of the spring board models promised didn't appear, and the ones that did were too little and many years too late.
Consumers have figured out Handspring suck, if your the only one who thinks they don't make lame kit then fine...go and buy them....The rest of us *won't*.
I bought a browser from them (used a screen hack to make it full screen on my NR70V - not 100% bug free when made to go full screen, but it's pretty good and doesn't crash or anything). But it had to wait for an unlock key after Handpring took my money but didn't give me a key in return! Turned out I had to wait for it to be sent it via email manually!
I was *amazed* it wasn't a fully automated and instantanious process. For technology company that's a spectatular example of management cluelessness, it's stunning.
RE: Yeah, 160x160
Font thickness wouldn't be a problem - OS 5 uses 'thick' fonts by defualt. The only problem with font thickness on a 320x320 screen is with Sonys pre-OS 5 devices because they went with their own thin fonts.
Having said that - i don't mind 160x160 on a small screen like this - im sure it will look great. My problem with it is from a developer point of view. A lot of apps written for OS 5 are games and multi-media that assume hi-res for OS 5 devices. Hi-res is not a requirement of OS 5 - but it has become a sort of unofficial standard for it. So newer OS 5 enhanced games, for example, won't work on this if they require 320x320. Drag.
RE: Yeah, 160x160
They do have pills for menopause, you know.
This thing would be great, but the problem with the screen is that software written for OS 5 will be compatible with the processor but not with the screen. This is a huge fumble and I think it will be the reason for holding people from buying it.
Everything else about it is pure craftsmanship. It even looks mean.
-Bosco
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RE: Yeah, 160x160
Face it, Handspring cut corners with the screen. Why are there so many apologists out there willing to pat them on the back for that?
I'm waitng for the Samsung.
-Adam
RE: Shut the hell up
If you don't like it, DON'T F-ING BUY IT!
Contrary to popular belief in these parts, the supergeeks who always need the latest and greatest do NOT make up the majority of consumers. Palm or whoever will not go under just because you don't buy something.
I wish I had a nickel for every moron who proclaimed that because some new device doesn't have X little feature that the company was going under. I'd be rich.
RE: Yeah, 160x160
If Compaq or IBM or Dell released a Pentium 5 or Athlon 64 laptop or PC with a monitor that could only display 640x480, would you be pissed? No, of course not! You'd say "wow, that's pretty cool"
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Any of the complainers here actually ever used the TREO 600?
The losers ranting here deserve our pity - they have nothing else to live for other than pretending to be experts on PDA sites.
Land of the free
RE: Yeah, 160x160
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RE: Yeah, 160x160
It sounds like you're all just trying to find excuses not to love it. And if I and everyone else go out and buy it and this starts selling like hotcakes, what excuse will you give about your whiney predictions?
RE: Yeah, 160x160
And to those who are whining and bitching about all of us who are whining and bitching about the poor resolution -- go back to reading the NY Times Circuits section for your "late-breaking" PDA news. This is a FAN site... Got it? If you're happy using your mother's hand-me-down Palm IIIxe, more power to ya. Just leave the rest of us out of it, okay?
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RE: looks nice
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I got to check one out last weekend (a friend works for HS) and it has a stylus. It's so well integrated into the body that it took me a moment to find despite it's location in the usual spot.
Looks good - but... Bluetooth? Screen! Battery?
I wonder, though, if they will include Bluetooth - and if so, if they are able to provide an audio profile for Bluetooth. It would ROCK to be able to hear msuic via headset and then take an incoming call!
The screen made me shake my head as well. But then again, I think HiRes Screens use more power. And this is a cellphone, people are used to cellphone recharging cycles. Too short of a battery performance would be inacceptable.
What do you think?
Have fun,
McTrinsic
RE: Looks good - but... Bluetooth? Screen! Battery?
BTW, the unit is very small and nice. The keyboard is a little small but is actually quite usable. I'm not sure about the location of the DPad to the top, but then again the current DPad on the bottom of the T|C and T|W isn't the easiest to use, and the one on the Treo 600 has a nicer feel to it.
Dissapointed like a frog
Really I fear the only genius Handspring had was the Treo design of yesteryear.
160 x 160? How could they put a camera first? Handspring will soon be, thank God, just a memory.
RE: Dissapointed like a frog
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