Sony Releases the NX80V and NX73V

My T615C is more than a year old and, frankly speaking, I'm getting tired of waiting for the 320x480 tablet PDA...

I've never liked this clamshell design but I have to be honest and say that these two PDA's are very nice... the backlit thumboard is a cool touch (sort of copied from Apples recent iPod and Powerbooks) if I didn't know that the Helix is coming I think I'd be preordering the NX73.

Anyway, I'm not sure if this two updates will get what it takes to boost Clie sales... guess time will tell us.

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Who? me. When? Now!

I agree with you, a3. I hate the clam shell. I'd love to see a 480x320 tablet PDA. No stupid camera. No stupid keyboard. Just a virt-G area. Get the size down somewhere close to that of my 760, if not smaller. And while they're at it, why not throw in a faster CPU with more memory? I just saw the T|C yesterday and while I hate the keyboard, the screen was nice and boy was it speedy and 64M of RAM.... Mmmmm... RAM....

Plus, no built-in WiFi or BT? Bah! I really want to upgrade my PDA, but nobody's gotten it right yet.

-sig

I agree with Sig. NO ONE, Not Palm nor Sony, has come out with a 760 killer. Small V-graffiti with blue tooth. First one out wins. I'll buy 2.

I totally agree with a3 and sigsegv.

I WANT 320x480 with VG and NO GIMMICKS like cameras, keyboards, etc.
But with Bluetooth and eventually also WiFi.

And I want it NOW.

Com'on. It can't be that difficult.

presently using m105 - waiting for Garmin iQue3600 with Bluetooth

I still have a lust for the n760c(n710, even, with a hack), but they abandoned it for the bulk. If they could just make it OS5 with a Zire71 camera, it'd be fine. I got a Zire71 because I couldn't wait. I can see the Zire71 going places, but Sony still can't find a groove.

I don't think you understand the gravity of the situation. We're in space.

Allegedly, the Helix will have 128Mb RAM.

Regarding Verteron's comment, I have to agree that no one seems to be looking at our multiple requests for a tablet 320x480 palm. However that might not be true since Tapwave's Helix and Garmin's Ique (not shure about the latter) disclosed such specs initially. Additionally, Palm OS6 seems to have native support for VG so in one year that tablet shape may become standard (wishful thinking? maybe... maybe not)

Anyway, one thing's for sure: Palm has caught up with Sony's line up. As a matter of fact, to see guys saying so and even some that say that Palm has outgrown Sony is a mere indication that Palm's lineup has evolved incredibly... IMHO for the first time in the last couple of years I have a Palm SG PDA (Zire 71) in my list of possible buys.
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I just don't get it. Why can't Sony produce a T615 size unit with virtual graffiti and the new transflective typr of screen - why do we have to keep getting BIGGER in form factor? Go the other direction for heaven's sake

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Do you mean "clie-ches"?

As said above:

No one seems to be looking at our multiple requests for a tablet 320x480 palm. However that might not be true since Tapwave's Helix and Garmin's Ique (not shure about the latter) disclosed such specs initially for Palm OS5

Additionally, Palm OS6 seems to have native support for VG so in one year that 320x480 tablet shape with VG may become standard (wishful thinking? maybe... maybe not).

One thing is for sure if we don't find an answer for not having a 320x480 tablet, lets just watch accross the river: PPC2002 has 240x320 and PPC2003 will have 240x320 and on top of all no easy landscape mode (you have to reset it)... aint't it good to know that we're in the right side (even if you have a 320x320)?
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Already looking forward to an Apple PDA...

The Palm V was one of the hottest selling Palms ever, because it was small, thin, and had a better screen (at the time) than any other. If you want a killer PDA that will sweep the field with many users, focus on that form factor, add transflective 240x320 screen with virtual graffiti, SDIO (bluetooth would be great), and put on an integrated (but removable) flip cover like the Treo 90. This thing would clean up in the "organizer" crowd.

Patience, Grasshopper. You will soon have that which you seek.

If you asked me I agree with abosco. Its rediculous to bring almost exact version of the NX70 and not include bluetooth and more memory. I am talking about at the very least 64 RAM and fully available, not this crap 32RAM and 16 available for use!! That is what I have with the NX60 (use jackflash for that extra 4mb they left in rom), they did not even upgrade the speed! What does sony think we are stupid? and for the price?

Very minor updates, not worth the price.

What a disapointment. Any way, if we look at Sony's past history they usually better the second generation of devices and totally trash the 3rd!!!

I am not buying into an new device now. Tough love!! I am almost ready to switch back to Palm or a next generation of the NZ90. Lets see what they come up with.

ALso, let me make an additional comment that there's a pretty nice entertainment software bundle with this unit (list is on sonystyle.com).

I think the long-time Palm users and Graffiti afficionados should take a moment of silence, since the release of this unit is likely (IMHO) the last new Palm we'll see that ships with Graffiti 1 standard (well, the Garmin iQue might, since it's been in the pipeline so long). We can certainly count on Palm SG's units not having it and the licensees will likely follow suit in the near future (with the possible exception of another smartphone or two). The end of an era!

Bosco, are we the fanbase, or just the fanboys?

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There is a good chance that the NX-73V will have Bluetooth.
As you can see at the Site qualweb.bluetoothsig.org (http://makeashorterlink.com/?L1C1251F4)
there is a Divece PEG-NX73v listed with the Bluetooth profiles:
- OPP-Client
- OPP-Server
- DUN-DT
- LAN-DT
- GAP
- Serial-DevA
- Serial-DevB
- OBEX
- BIP-ImagePush
- BIP-RemCam

But roumors say that this version will only appear on the european market

Well you are right and BT WAS overhyped as the next great thing that would solve all connection problems. It has been trying to recover from the hype ever since.
Availability of BT devices is just now starting to take off. There are BT headsets, and keyboards and mice are not too far away from taking off. The main usefullness does look to be with phones however. Despite all the hype about WIFI the fact is that there are few open access points for the public and the real wireless network that is already in place everywhere is the cellular network. You need a cellphone with data/modem functionality to use it and if you can connect your PDA by BT to such a phone then that is the way to go. Many cellphone manufactures are now announcing BT enabled phones and cellular data services are starting to take off.
I have said that what is needed now is a separate BT to WIFI access point. TI has just announced a chipset solution to BT and WIFI interference and connectivity which should result in such a device in the not too distant future. http://www.wirelessnewsfactor.com/perl/story/21731.html

Bluetooth, for most of us, is a solution looking for a problem. It's a useless interface unless you've found a killer app that suits your needs. Of course, in a forum like this, you shouldn't expect a fair representation of the typical PDA user.

The answer is actually very simple. Nobody care about Bluetooth in Japan. They have 2.5/3G phones that can already do lots of wireless stuffs.

Bluetooth technology is only relevent in other parts of the world like US and Europe, which is why it might be included in European and/or US models.

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