HP CEO Remarks on Palm Plans
Speaking at a bank sponsored technology conference today, Mark Hurd, CEO of HP made some interesting remarks concerning the Palm acquisition. While we only have a small second hand, out of context quote to go on via ZDNet, he reportedly made some curious remarks concerning HP's plans for webOS.
Hurd said that the company isn't going to "spend billions of dollars trying to go into the smartphone business; that doesn't in any way make any sense."
Hurd further goes on to state that HP bought Palm Inc. for its IP (intellectual property). The follow up quote (also posted after the break) further elaborates his reasoning and desire to load up printers and other web-connected devices with a consistent software environment i.e. webOS.
Hurd added:
We didn't buy Palm to be in the smartphone business. And I tell people that, but it doesn't seem to resonate well. We bought it for the IP. The WebOS is one of the two ground-up pieces of software that is built as a web operating environment…We have tens of millions of HP small form factor web-connected devices…Now imagine that being a web-connected environment where now you can get a common look and feel and a common set of services laid against that environment. That is a very value proposition.
Thanks to Gekko for the tip.
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RE: 'We didn't buy Palm to be in the smartphone business.' - HP CEO
RE: 'We didn't buy Palm to be in the smartphone business.' - HP CEO
Long-term, I think HP is hell-bent on putting WebOS into tablets, netbooks, and printers (one-touch icon on an HP Printer's front touch screen to have new consumables shipped straight to your door!)
That said, that probably wasn't the best thing to say at this particular time. Smartphones are still the "hot" thing as we begin the 4G transition. For the forseeable future at least, HP needs to at least keep up appearances that they are in it. I wonder how far along the pre-acquisition Palm had their roadmap plotted out? Probably mid-late 2011 at most?
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RE: 'We didn't buy Palm to be in the smartphone business.' - HP CEO
i think Hurd views smartphones as a commodity business that he can't win against Apple, Android, Microsoft, et al. trying to make WebOS successful in that space at this stage in the game would cost billions that he doesn't want to spend - and they'd still probably fail. Hurd is all about the services - that's where the profit is at. that's why they bought EDS and why Dell bought Perot Systems. Hurd recognizes that it's foolish for him to waste billions and try to beat Apple and Android.
so if you own a webOS phone now - congratulations. you're out there on a tiny proprietary island all by yourself. and it's getting even smaller by the day.
RE: 'We didn't buy Palm to be in the smartphone business.' - HP CEO
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HP CEO explains reason for Matias Duarte departure
I had planned to reup with ATT and get a Amazon $49 Pre Plus and slide my SIM card from my Treo 680 to the Pre Plus, get used to web os and wait for the the first HP Palm web os phone. Now, I may do that to get a better web browser while I wait for the Evo to come to ATT.
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and continue as if nothing had happened."
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RE: HP CEO explains reason for Matias Duarte departure
Time to decide: buy a spare Centro or give up on Palm's beautiful OS.
RE: HP CEO explains reason for Matias Duarte departure
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RE: the end?
HP would be smart to spin off the name to another group for $$$ after they have milked the current roadmap of any remaining cash flow.
What a beautiful OS too. A shame that HP will merge it into the beauracracy and it's beauty will slowly disappear into oblivion. What a shame. :-(
Pat Horne
RE: the end?
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RE: the end?
When Studebaker stopped making cars, its components were used for other transportation technologies in the following decades. With webOS going into a bunch of HP products, the transition is hauntingly familiar.
Five to fifteen years from now, we will look at the Pre as a "too much too soon" product. Ironically the name "Pre" fits the design way more than it was intended to be. When all your other current smart phones look dated, the next generation will still see a Pre as a "new" looking device.
Hold on to those Pre's! They may be worth something on Antiques Roadshow in a decade or so.
RE: the end?
you're delusional. the Pre was a too little too late piece of buggy laggy plasticky gimmicky garbage as evidenced by the product/company failing and having to be bought out to be "saved". no more revisionist history please.
RE: the end?
Just kidding.
Have a nice day!
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RE: the end?
I'll stick by my "delusional" view of this. The Pre was a breakthrough product WAY ahead of its time. Ten years from now, the Pre will be seen a something that should have happened but the market wasn't ready for it.
Features like off-screen touch interface, JavaScript-based apps, pond stone-like design, supplementary LEDs enhancing the display screen, the non-linear slide keyboard and the cloud sync feature are brilliant concepts rushed to a market that couldn't appreciate nor understand it.
Those that only see the execution and how it works for them in a nascent viewpoint could only trash it. I'm glad there are differences of opinion here but I won't lower myself to insults and personality sniping.
RE: the end?
- ahead of its time yet confusing RIGHT NOW.
>>>JavaScript-based apps
- isn't that Android too?
>>>pond stone-like design
- god no!
>>>supplementary LEDs enhancing the display screen
- Pffft!
>>>the non-linear slide keyboard
- huge design mistake
>>>and the cloud sync feature
- which everyone else has added or is adding and which will stab everybody who trusts it in the back one day.
>>>are brilliant concepts rushed to a market that couldn't appreciate nor understand it.
- Um, no.
RE: the end?
and Pre owners are thinking about skipping it right into a lake.
RE: the end?
I think the way to do this right would be to have an option for the end user to set up their own private sync server. Those that couldn't care about security can use Palm's cloud, but the ones that want a more secure server could have a small device that acted like the sync server. Think Palm Desktop over the internet or a BES server except cheaper. Then all the phone needs to know is what the current IP address is... sort of the way Sling Media had it with their Sling Service. HPalm could have a server that would just keep track of IP addresses for each sync server + phone combination using a unique key. Or alternatively enable the device to sync with a DNS resolvable IP address using DynDNS or something like that.
RE: the end?
How exciting...
Look, I don't pretend to know the margin of printers vs. smartphones, but how unbelievably boring. And no, I don't think his company is in business to excite me. Although, those kinds of things help when putting your company in the middle of the technology Zeitgeist (the kind of thing that, most importantly, leads to profits).
That said, I think that the overwhelming majority of the population could care less what software their printer's 1-inch screen is running. In fact, you could make the screen 10 inches, and I could still care less.
Yea yea, they'll make tablets, but if you want one OS running across an array of devices, why wouldn't smartphones be one of those devices? I suppose he's not ruling it out, but I would be a little confused right now were I an HP shareholder.
RE: How exciting...
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RE: How exciting...
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RE: How exciting...
I mean, why in the would was there not a webOS equivalent of the Palm TX? It was a well selling and simple to use device. You could "cloud it up" via a WiFi connection and no need for a carrier license. The Apple iPod Touch shows that you can yank out the cell phone and make a great secondary market.
My take is that Palm in fact is going back to its roots as a mobile embedded systems company with the faddish smart phone crap.
RE: How exciting...
Have a nice day!
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RE: How exciting...
Have a nice day!
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Hmmm
At least I hope I'm right. I think it would be a waste for HP to not make a really nice WebOS phone.
Carl Yankowski laughs and laughs and laughs
What HP just did is even worse. WHO in their right mind would dare buy a Palm Pre or Palm Pixi now? Sales are now zooming down to ZERO!
Damn, I hope they can dump that inventory on MetroPCS. They'd still make some sales there via prepay. At the prepay level, most people wouldn't care it was an orphan phone OS.
As for no smartphones...
On the other hand (level), just give me a damned webOS tablet already. With maybe a Pixel Qi screen too.
my advice
my advice for all you rubes is to immediately move your data from the closed locked proprietary Palm silos and mom & pop black-box apps onto something more universal, open, standard, and enduring like The Google, Outlook, Word/Excel.
you don't want your data to be trapped forever all alone on that tiny proprietary island.
RE: my advice
No, we want it in the cloud where some ten-year-old Chinese haXXor can steal it for the glory of the Motherland and future blackmailing of Americans.
You eejit!
I cannot wait for it to happen to you!!
RE: my advice
Still, I'm still amazed that CEOs make such asinine statements sometimes. Its one thing to say that you are going to push printers or tablets or whatever. But why burn bridges if you gain nothing from it? You never know what the future might bring.
hey bosco
it's looks like at&t has your balls in a vice - or they soon will when they change your contract.
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how does it feel?
RE: hey bosco
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'We didn't buy Palm to be in the smartphone business.' - HP CEO