Palm Pixi Drops to $50 at Sprint
Sprint has quietly lowered the introductory price on the Palm Pixi. New customers can now purchase the Pixi direct from Sprint for $50 after the usual rebates and new contractual discounts.
Sprint was the first carrier to offer the Palm Pixi back in mid-Novemeber. It's initial asking price was $99. Earlier this month Verizon began offering an updated Pixi Plus version which includes WiFi at the same price point. That too was initially offered at $99 and has already been reduced to $79.
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RE: Buh-bye Nokia
Look at the iPhone/Droid etc. Look at the Centro. The gesture area is analogous to the silkscreened Graffiti area on the original Pilot. There's NO NEED for a dedicated input area in this day and age. Everything can (and should) be done onscreen with the exception of devices that choose to include a physical keyboard or hard buttons/d-pads.
A gesture area offers the worst of all possible worlds: it's unintuitive, eats up space that could go to a larger screen, and offers no tactile response or feedback.
Pilot 1000->Pilot 5000->PalmPilot Pro->IIIe->Vx->m505->T|T->T|T2->T|C->T|T3->T|T5->Zodiac 2->TX->Verizon Treo 700P->Verizon Treo 755p->Verizon Moto Droid
RE: Buh-bye Nokia
the gesture area is an unnecessary, unintuitive, extraneous, cumbersome gimmick.
i would love to hear Rob Haitani's honest opinion on webOS and Pre/Pixi.
RE: Buh-bye Nokia
What should they do, put wee Arrow stickers there to prompt people?!
Everything should be apparent on the screen. That's not necessarily the case with scrolling on the iPhone, yet that doesn't seem to be an adoption barrier. For one, people see many others using it. Second, if they go into an Apple Store (which is a gentler experience than most miserable cellphone outlets!), they can see others scrolling. Other than scrolling and the Home button, everything else is on the screen (putting aside "standard" phone buttons like volume and off/on).
Yecch. What a mess. Getting rid of the Gesture Area would confuse the hell out of everyone and upset devs -- making them code Android-like: more than one version of an app.
Oh, it also doesn't help that the webOS home screens scroll *vertically* too. That was a mistake to begin with right there.
RE: Buh-bye Nokia
Still, WebOS isn't very intuitive, either to neophyte smartphone owners OR long-time Palm OS users, especially with the combination of mind-numbing gestures to learn/memorize AND the relatively tiny little screen. Palm also hasn't made very good use of the available screen space. Some elements of WebOS are frighteningly finger-unfriendly. Gekko's right; I would LOVE to hear what Hawkins, Haitani et al have to say about the current crop of cruddy Palm products.
I used my TX at length again today and after all these years remain amazed at how quickly I can bang through Garnet even without a stylus. From here on, I will refuse to buy a smartphone with a screen smaller than 3.7". And ideally I want something that's 4"+. Hell, I lived/fumbled with TWO separate devices for so long, even something the size of the HTC HD2 I still consider pocketable--almost comforting with its bulk!
Pilot 1000->Pilot 5000->PalmPilot Pro->IIIe->Vx->m505->T|T->T|T2->T|C->T|T3->T|T5->Zodiac 2->TX->Verizon Treo 700P->Verizon Treo 755p->Verizon Moto Droid
RE: Buh-bye Nokia
hkk - check out the gallery -
http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/19/dell-mini-5-prototype-impressions/
RE: Buh-bye Nokia
Just saw a Verizon TV ad featuring Palm Pre Plus. Noticed the white Gesture Area button is now gone. I wonder how many cents/bucks that saved them per unit and if it was a pre-emptive cost-cutting move? And didn't that button light up for notifications too?
It also doesn't help them that the camera on the Pre is Teh Suck. Really, really bad.
RE: Buh-bye Nokia
Remember, I have a Droid, and until yesterday had near-daily access to a Pre Plus. WebOS and Android both blow mightily, you are certainly right about that.
If I was standing in a VZW store right NOW and HAD to pick a device, I would probably give the nod (BY THE SLIMMEST of margins) to the Droid, if only due to its superior build quality, superior screen, microSD slot, "free" navigation, and nifty voice dial/command capabilities. But both platforms suck hideously for PIM, with Android sucking even worse than WebOS. At least Palm gives us a Palm Desktop PIM data import tool, a compressed calendar view, and a memos app!
Of course the button removal in the Pre Plus is a cost-saving measure. Not only is tapping the center of the gesture area even less intuitive than clicking the chrome button on the original Pre, it gives you no point of reference when orienting the device (ie you sometimes end up with an upside-down Pre Plus!)
The Pre's camera is NOT that bad, to be honest. It can snap photos in rapid-fire and in decent lighting they look far better than the pics on my Droid. Of course, the Droid has a superb better than DVD-quality video recording quality which sort of makes up for it.
Pilot 1000->Pilot 5000->PalmPilot Pro->IIIe->Vx->m505->T|T->T|T2->T|C->T|T3->T|T5->Zodiac 2->TX->Verizon Treo 700P->Verizon Treo 755p->Verizon Moto Droid
Splash, splash!
That's the sound of the guns and water casks going over the side of the ship (for Patrick O'Brien fans).
Too bad they still can't outsail their pursuers.
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RE: Free
How can we-com virtual wallet interaction help?
E-T
RE: Free
We can not work for free we are already subsidizing our time do to a challenging economy. The government allows corporation to wright of expenses to enhance their business what more has to be done to encourage corporations to spend money to enhance their customer service?
What markets around the world offer as much opportunity to enhance their customer service and wright off that cost?
E-T
RE: Free
E-T
GSM
RE: GSM
2. Sorry to hear boot camp hasn't been kind to the Pre but I'm also not the least bit surprised. Pre Pluses are evidently being returned in DROVES to VZW/BB. Today was the one-month cutoff date for returns for people who bought a Pre Plux or Pixi Plus for VZW on launch day.
3. Get yerself a nice BT stereo headset! Don't let Palm's flaky hardware keep you away from your tunes!
P.S. How are YOU holding up in boot camp thus far??
Pilot 1000->Pilot 5000->PalmPilot Pro->IIIe->Vx->m505->T|T->T|T2->T|C->T|T3->T|T5->Zodiac 2->TX->Verizon Treo 700P->Verizon Treo 755p->Verizon Moto Droid
RE: GSM
The Pre really copped it on a rainy day at the range. I kept it in the microfibre sleeve and my waterproof (mostly) webbing pouch, but it's still taken a beating. I'm surprised it still works at all actually.
Kris: damn. I am going to get a headset, but the busted jack makes it difficult to actually talk on the phone some times. I want a Pre or Pixi Plus when the GSM ones come out. As for boot camp - horrible to start with, but now I'm really enjoying it. Looking forward to getting back into the real world though...
RE: GSM
All of us and Ryan should all get together in Vegas for CES 2011, even if Palm's not around in their current shape/form. It would be a fitting PIC meetup and one helluva Palm post-mortem, wouldn't it? I've got a few frequent flyer miles left I'm sitting on so I'm game for it!
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Buh-bye Nokia
At any rate, this has to put real pressure on Nokia, which dominates the low-end.
A smartphone at a low-end price = poison to them.
Now if only Sprint would make sure everyone who fondles knows about the damn Gesture Area and gestures. Maybe a sign nearby?!