Rumor: Next Generation Treo Details and Picture
Possible details and an image of the next generation palmOne Treo Smartphone have surfaced. The image shows a similar Treo design, with a higher resolution screen and integrated Bluetooth wireless.
What appears to be a camera-phone picture of a slide or printout detailing the next generation Treo has been posted to the discussion forum at TreoCentral.
According to the details listed on the picture, the next Treo will retain the same basic form factor and layout with a number of improvement, It will be powered by Palm OS 5.x, have 32MB of RAM and a 312 MHz ARM processor. It will include integrated Bluetooth and a 320x320 pixel, 65k color TFT display.
The smartphone will also have a new camera with digital zoom and video capture, dedicated answer and disconnect phone buttons and a SD/MMC expansion slot with SD I/O. The report also claims a number of web Browser enhancements.
The source image lists the release timing as Fall 2004, but does not offer any other details on price or availability. You can click on the image on the right for the full slide. palmOne CEO Todd Bradley has repeatedly mentioned that they are developing a family of smartphones due in the Fall.
Thanks to Guarav for the tip.
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RE: Wow, Just what the Doc Ordered!
Well, that and a price I could afford. ;-)
-Kevin Crossman, Palm Powered Software Champion
Close!
I agree more RAM would be nice too.
This is a great thing, though. I expect lots of good stuff from the future Treo line.
RE: Close!
RE: Please, Please, Please May There Be A Verizon Version
RE: Please, Please, Please May There Be A Verizon Version
1) They knew this one was on the way;
2) They just overly conservative and wait years to release what everyone else already has;
Here's hoping it's reason #1 as Verizon's the only decent network out there (Sprint's a close second) in terms of coverage and performance. If it is reason #2, that means they'll be releasing the 610 2 years after it's been released.
One last thought: the 610 would have to be EV-DO and EMTS compatible right? 'Twould be a collasal screwup on Palm's part if it isn't.
RE: Please, Please, Please May There Be A Verizon Version
Sooner or later, all Palm-Powered Handhelds running under Intel's PXA27X line of processors need to implement Centrino Technology in addition to Intel's XScale technology and Intel's WMMX.
RE: Antenna
Seems the best any manufacturer can do is put in an antenna that you can remove and replace with a plug. Those who prefer jewelry to communicating can just take the sucker off.
RE: Antenna
Any day, with the antenna.
RE: Antenna
Thanks for pointing out that hallmark of flawed design: the antenna.
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RE: Antenna
I don't think Handspring put a guy up there. But hey, nothing a good hacksaw can't handle? :-0
Pat Horne; www.churchoflivingfaith.com
RE: Antenna
well, he wanted to show that modern phones don't have antenna and still get great reception.
I'm with him. antenna is obsolete. even MDA2/XDA2 don't have an antenna!
btw nokia phones that were introduced in europe 3 weeks ago can beat treo anytime.
they have 1mpix camera, bluetooth, can read native pdf files, have quickoffice, have 3G(UMTS/WCDMA) & EDGE support. something treo is lacking
and well they are smaller and ligher (around 120g). have FM-tuner & HW radio.
RE: Antenna
RE: Antenna
RE: Antenna
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[signature1]My PDAs: Visor --> Visor Neo (blue) --> Zire 71.... so ends the "marathon", for now[/signature1]
OT ... RE: Antenna
What's the diff in the 616 & 610? I thot it was just the networks? Just got the 610 on T-mobile yesterday. Is the 616 that better? Why?
Pat Horne; www.churchoflivingfaith.com
RE: Antenna
The SE T610 is 900/1800/1900 mhz. The SE T616 is 850/1800/1900 mhz. Tmobile has the 610 (all 1900 network) and Cingular has the 616 (850/1900 network).
RE: Antenna
Other RF choices will not offer an external antenna as its interactive purpose is not the same. However, will interact with all including those with antennas.
BT is a good interactive ear that listens well.
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RE: Antenna
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Psion 5> Vx > m505 > N770C > T625C > NR70V > e310 > T/T > HP h2210 > T/T3 & h4150
StarTac 75 > T28m > T39m > T68m > T610 > T630
Is that all?
RE: Is that all?
You need go back to check PalmSource News.
RE: Is that all?
Yeah, like make it bigger and heavier and ugly and more power consuming. What P1 really needed to do was change the design so inventories aren't overstocked. But then again they could have made fold 'n fly like a paper airplane so that it could be the first "shared" smartphone. Now that would be a "big leap." Of course, that still wouldn't impress a terminal cynic.
RE: Is that all?
You need go back to check PalmSource News."
Actually, I would advise you to go and do the same. Neither PalmOne nor Palm Source ever said there wouldn't be an OS 6.0 smart phone. They only said they were developing a OS 5.0 version geared towards smart phone that would be low cost.
With Treos making up a considerably larger portion of Palm's revenue (and overall increased financial success) on a daily basis, I highly doubt they won't be releasing an OS 6.0 phone in the near future.
Might want to tone down the arrogance next time if you don't know what you're talking about...
RE: Is that all?
P.S. It doesn't make sense for PalmOne to have some Treo models with Garnet and some with Cobalt.
RE: Is that all?
P.S. It doesn't make sense for PalmOne to have some Treo models with Garnet and some with Cobalt."
There is if there's going to be an entire family of Treos or smart phones from Palm as this and other articles have stated (right from the mouth of PalmOne's own executives).
They can't all be high end, therefore an OS 5.0 device might make sense.
Face it, PalmOne is probably going to be producing a lot more smart phones than PDAs within a couple of years.
RE: Is that all?
People expect every Treo in a family to act the same, but have different physical features. More RAM, faster processor, built-in Bluetooth, built-in camera or lack thereof etc.
Having a family of Treos, some with Cobalt, and some with Garnet, makes about as much sense as having a series of Tungstens with OS 5, but some with OS 4. (OK, the Tungsten W aside.)
RE: Is that all?
Cobalt will be used for the laptop replacement PDA. As soon as they have it settled, tested and bug-free (to some extent at least) they might think on exporting it to the Treo family.
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RE: Is that all?
Good move, Palm. Also, isn't it funny how the Treo sync/charge connector is staying put and not being replaced by flimsy AC/mini USB cords? At least PalmOne won't screw that connectivity "standard" up! (though I do feel the Treo connector in its current form is a touch big for by "cell phone" standards)
RE: Is that all?
I bet we see this on Orange in Europe before it hits the States.
Edward Green
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RE: Is that all?
That's only the single biggest selling one *today*. And recall we've already had Treo's across two OS flavors OS4 (up to the Treo 300) and OS5 for the Treo600.
"P.S. It doesn't make sense for PalmOne to have some Treo models with Garnet and some with Cobalt."
Sure it does. The same way it does to have a Tungsten C or T3 on one end, and a Zire 21 on the other. The basic OS experience is the same, but the actual OS is considerably different.
"An OS is not something that you can swap in or out of your PDAs at will."
As one who's done licensee beta testing, I would beg to differ. All Palm OS flavors are very tailored for devices any way. Assuming the OS was targeted for the specific device running OS5 or 6, is as simple as it was running OS2,3 or 4 on dragonball units.
"People expect every Treo in a family to act the same". To an extent that was the case with OS4 Treo's and OS5 Treo's, but there are also plenty of evolved changes. That will continue.
For the rest of the naysayers, get used to it. It's been made very clear to developers. They they want to get down to a particular pricepoint to drive sales, and that can be done with Garnet. However Cobalt will remain on the higher end, and as it was pointed out, it's even MORE suited to smartphones than garnet with it's abilities of locking down a device in terms of what software and drivers can be installed and how they may or may not interact. These are features cellular carriers are demanding (much as I loathe the entire concept). Carriers want Cobalt lockdown ability, and consumers want what will be Garnet pricepoint. PalmSource and licensees are going to give out both.
RE: Is that all?
http://www.palmsource.com/press/2004/021004_cobalt.html
Clearly there will be wireless and "smart" devices in both OS groups.
In fact, I tend to grimace at the term "smartphone" these days because it's so limiting. A connected device can be so much more than a phone. When you have a multi-media PDA with Bluetooth/WiFi and multiple bands of GSM or CDMA flavors (as HP is market leading with), it's much more than a smart phone.
Camera? And they'll fail in business again!
when do they recognize this?
In many companies cameraphones are forbidden and here palm one will - again - sell no single unit!
I can't understand this; hopefully they'll release an official cameraless version.
Thomas
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RE: Camera? And they'll fail in business again!
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Wow, Just what the Doc Ordered!
Can this run the Blackberry software? If so, what a deal.
Still has the antenna ... :-|
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