Google Maps v2.0.2.0 for Palm OS Released
As foretold, Google has released a new version of its Google Maps for Mobile application for Palm OS devices today. The most anticipated new feature, the "My Location" service is only compatible with the AT&T and Verizon Cento at this time. The Sprint Centro will be made compatible via a software maintenance release expected sometime later this summer.
Palm OS Treo devices are apparently not compatible with the new feature and Palm has no plans to release and update for these devices. Google's blog post states "older Palm models such as the Treos don't have the APIs needed to get the cell tower data, so My Location is not available on these models."
Google Maps v2.0.20 also features some additional new features that all devices can take advantage of including hybrid view so you can view satellite imagery with street names layered on top, an improved business and address search, and a route summary that allows you to scroll through step-by-step directions.
Google Maps Mobile can be freely downloaded from google.com/gmm.
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RE: 'Treos don't have the APIs'
Were this ~6 months ago, I'd say "give it a shot".
But now, after the royal shafting of 755p owners in regards to the Centro-only GMM, stuff and Palm's recent admission that Treos are gonna be all-WinMob from here on out, I think the 755p is definitely the redheaded stepchild of Palm's lineup.
So I guess that if you ARE inclined to go the converged device route, your options are severeral at this point:
1. Buy either an unlocked 680 (used) or Centro (new) if possible to go GSM and see if you can live with it. If you don't like it, you'll probably be able to sell it and recoup most of the purchase price.
2. If the above is not applicable, give a VZW Centro a whirl under their 14-day no questions asked trial period. It's got worse battery life than the 755p, non-rubberized exterior, a miserable stylus, and a tiny screen & keyboard. But it is cheaper and does qualify for the "cheap" smartphones data plan whereas the 755p does not.
3. Since you've already got a TX, my recommendation would be to either get a few accessories for your TX and settle in for another year and see what Nova brings. No Palm Inc. product, smartphone or PDA, is gonna give you the 128mb, 320x480 LCD, wi-fi, & solid stylus you have on your TX.
4. If $ permits, buy another TX like I did and stick it away "just in case" nothing else pans out.
As you can see from my device history in my sig, I grudgingly went from a TX to a VZW 700p then to a VZW 755p, but only because my employer pays for most of my Verizon bill and it was imperative for me to have some kind of e-mail access while out of the office and BT DUN on a CDMA phone isn't possible on a TX. Otherwise, I'd still be carrying my TX + a dumbphone.
I carry my 755p as my daily/work device but keep the TX around my house to use as a poor man's web tablet & photo viewer. I also keep its PIM data current with my Treo if I need to travel to a non-CDMA country where I can at least jump on a few wi-fi hotspots.
Pilot 1000->Pilot 5000->PalmPilot Pro->IIIe->Vx->m505->T|T->T|T2->T|C->T|T3->T|T5->Zodiac 2->TX->Verizon Treo 700P->Verizon Treo 755p
RE: 'Treos don't have the APIs'
My solution? I hate Winmobile, so I am headed to a Blackberry curve. I would move to an iPhone, but I like the physical keyboard, and I have an itouch I carry in my briefcase.
I got off on the wrong stop in a city back in Jan, and used google maps to find where I was. I physically put the cross streets in, and found my location. At the time, I thought "this would have been so easy with location services in google maps," and decided then and there, if palm didn't update the api's, I was done.
Once I get everything moved and set up on my mac, to work with blackberry, MissingSync for blackberry, Ical, addressbook, and bento, I am switching. Too bad, I had one of the first Treo 600's, but its time to move on.
RE: 'Treos don't have the APIs'
All I'm saying is, of all the things Palm hasn't done that has caused me to lose interest in the platform, this isn't the deal breaker for me!
RE: 'Treos don't have the APIs'
Works fine now with GMM 2.0.2.0 download:
-Verizon Centro (CDMA)
-AT&T Centro (GSM)
-Unlocked Centro (GSM)
Will work once a future ROM update is released:
-Sprint Centro (CDMA)
Works with an unofficial 3rd party MyLocation program:
-Treo 600, 650, & 680 (GSM)
Doesn't work now or ever:
-All CDMA Treos (755p, 700p, 650, 600-all carriers)
Pilot 1000->Pilot 5000->PalmPilot Pro->IIIe->Vx->m505->T|T->T|T2->T|C->T|T3->T|T5->Zodiac 2->TX->Verizon Treo 700P->Verizon Treo 755p
RE: 'Treos don't have the APIs'
It's a little off topic, but I'm not clear on the reasoning for dumping your TX in favor of a 755p. You say that "...BT DUN on a CDMA phone isn't possible on a TX."
I have a T3 and a Verizon (CDMA obviously) Motorola V710. I specifically got these two devices in order to use the BT DUN to get to the web; it works fine. A while back when they were on sale I bought a TX so that when the T3 dies (hopefully never) I'll be able to continue the practice with the TX. I understood it would work fine, but haven't tried it.
What do you know that I don't?
Thanks.
Upgrade to a Curve
Moved onto a Curve myself a month back.
Thinner and more sturdy then my Treo. No antennae. Has Wifi (including VOIP) and multitasking.
I look at my Treo now and it looks like some primitive stone tool which would be used by a Neanderthal.
And oh yes, "My Location" works out of the box with Google Maps. Opera Mini provides a compelling browsing experience (especially over wifi), and GMail Mobile fits in like a native app.
No regrets.
After 12 years of Palm usage, I'm done.
Hey Palm, you know that middle finger you've been extending to your user base for the last 4+ years.... right back at ya.
RE: 'Treos don't have the APIs'
http://palmdoc.net
RE: 'Treos don't have the APIs'
RE: 'Treos don't have the APIs'
Me, I'll hang around until the Nova explodes and I kick myself for hanging around till the Nova exploded. :-/
Pat Horne
RE: 'Treos don't have the APIs'
No sprint?
Hack to port the APIs to older Treo, anyone?
Tungsten T -> Palm TX -> TX & Centro (Good combo so far!)
RE: Hack to port the APIs to older Treo, anyone?
You won't make any money, but you'll keep more of us around until Nova arrives. Of course after that I'm not too positive. This is a pretty big slap in the face, especially for phones that are still available at outrageous prices. At least 680 & 755.
I like the Centro a lot for many reasons. It is a nice tier down device almost identical to the 755 in a smaller pkg. My teenager loves his.
That being said, there is no way I'm downgrading to one from my Treo. You might not want to alienate all you Palm OS power users. These (we) folks are not only loyal, but more like sycophants for sticking with you through your pathetic shenanigans since 2004.
If this is a statement that all Treo (Biz class) users will be forced to WM anyway, then forget it. If you think I'm going to humiliate myself w/ Palm hardware running WM, then I'm outta here yesterday. Plenty of competent companies running WinMob to stick around for your disloyalty.
Just get the APIs out for Treos. This is really stupid.
Pat Horne
RE: Hack to port the APIs to older Treo, anyone?
Clié PEG-SJ22
Abacus AU5005 Wrist PDA (soon to be shuffle modded)
Palm Centro (Sprint, black)
Marketing Tactics
Yeah right...more like an iphone if anything..
RE: Marketing Tactics
I suppose you still use BetaMax, 8-Track, and ride a buggy to work.
The last known classic PDA user.
Thanks to Palm I'm back to using a Newton!
RE: Marketing Tactics
I suppose you still use BetaMax, 8-Track, and ride a buggy to work.
If a Treo with Palm OS is the equivalent of a BetaMax, 8-Track, and buggy, then what exactly is a Centro w/ Palm OS.
So Palm's product strategy is pairing an outdated horse-drawn buggy with YACWMSP (yet another crappy windows mobile smart phone) aka the Ford Taurus of the smartphone industry)?
Maybe Cobalt wouldn't have been so bad after all.
Google Maps features
EH
RE: Google Maps features
Google is just following what their dealt. Palm's crap.
Pat Horne
Any postive responses to this news?
RE: Any postive responses to this news?
RE: Any postive responses to this news?
I still remain extremely underwhelmed by the Centro as an overall package, unfortunately.
Pilot 1000->Pilot 5000->PalmPilot Pro->IIIe->Vx->m505->T|T->T|T2->T|C->T|T3->T|T5->Zodiac 2->TX->Verizon Treo 700P->Verizon Treo 755p
This is news?
Palm OS Treo devices are apparently not compatible with the new feature and Palm has no plans to release and update for these devices. Google's blog post states "older Palm models such as the Treos don't have the APIs needed to get the cell tower data, so My Location is not available on these models."
Doesn't work on some of their current and very recent devices? Yawn. No surprises here.
This is business as usual for an unresponsive, directionless, downwardly-spiraling company. The main concern of the board is likely how to get as much compensation fron the company before it folds or the get booted.
If you want it to work on a Treo contact Dmitri.
RE: This is news?
The WinceMob devices gave Palm a couple years of breathing room and publicity, but it's really the PalmOS that keeps people interested in the company at all - and they don't even own it... 2009, or 2010, or.... before the next OS (announced years ago) might see daylight.
Windoze Treo? I don't think so - I have a desktop system for my start->programs->(program group)->program launching needs. I just want a phone with a damn good PIM and Palm app compatibility.
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**Another vote for a >100MB RAM Treo**
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'Treos don't have the APIs'
I was in the Verizon store getting my first lengthy hands-on session with a Treo 755p. Though it seems bulky and I don't care for a hardware keyboard, I think I'm about to get one to see if I can go all convergence crazy. I'm sure I will tote my TX for a while though. I tried the Centro find the screen too small and the KB even more useless than the Treo, but it has those few updated programs that Treo users get screwed out of. Add the lack of this nifty Google Maps functionality and you can tell Palm doesn't want to sell any more Treos. Argh! Bleepin' Palm should make their logo a stubborn mule!