Rumor: More Evidence for the Tungsten X and Zire 22
New evidence has been posted regarding the Palm Tungsten X and Zire 22. Signs of the new devices were found within the recently pulled release of the Palm Desktop v4.2.
According to a posting at Tamspalm, there are references to the Tungsten X and Zire 22 within the Palm Desktop v4.2 for Windows. Shortly after Palm released the Palm Desktop update it was pulled and rereleased as the Palm Desktop v4.1.4E.
According to Tamspalm, the release contained two files: TX.html and Z22.html. These files contained information on how to locate the reset pin for the two devices and includes images of the backsides of the two models.
Tungsten X
The Tungsten X will run Palm OS Garnet v5.4.9. It will have a 312MHz XScale processor, a 320x480 pixel display, 128MB of non-volitile memory, 802.11b WiFi, Bluetooth 1.2 and an SDIO expansion slot. It will have a $299 USD MSRP.
PalmInfocenter's source claims the Tungsten X may come with a digital camera. It is possible that Palm will release a version without a camera as well.
Zire 22
The Zire 22 will have a 160x160 pixel color screen, 32MB of RAM and no SD slot. It will retail for $99. This will be the first color handheld released under the $100 mark.
The rumored release date for both devices is October 11th.
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RE: Voice Recorder
RE: Voice Recorder
And I'm still not convinced that the mini-usb isn't the way to go for the connector. I wouldn't be suprized if they end up changing the connector in a year or 2 because it can't do Audio and Video. Oh and by the way has anywone see any hardware for the special capbilites that the new connect is suppose to suport?
The price does sound pretty reasonable for the first time in a long time.
RE: Voice Recorder
Bottom line: no voice recorder, no vibrating alarms, no internal drive. But the storage heap is 114MB, which would make this the first Palm(one) pda to break the 64M barrier.
Other imprtant details:
Garnet 5.4.9, Fat32 (large SD support), wlan and BT
This is the thread link:
http://www.nexave.de/forum/thread.php?threadid=16887
viel Spass ;-)
Moreover: giving credit where it's due...
The info on the palm desktop program having pictures of the Tx and zire, was first reported on the nexave.de forums on September 5. The guy at tamspalm should have given due credit.
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Waiting for a TT successor
RE: Voice Recorder
I expect it to sell for >$300 (but then its worth it).
http://www.infosyncworld.com/news/n/6165.html
Surur
RE: Voice Recorder
RE: Voice Recorder
Two versions?
Another example would be for next spring having an 8gb LifeDrive with a larger HD & more RAM cache when the 6gb LD2 is on store shelves. Or like PIC's article says, a T7 with or without a camera like they did the Treo 600s.
The limited models could be Palm webstore-only and have a nice markup from the standard models---kinda like how some carriers & resellers have done with the black & silver RAZR cell phones.
I'd rather see $ put into this than (pick any number of the following) gimmicks/scams: Palm Press, Palm retail stores, Palm Pays Back, Michael Jordan & Claudia Schiffer endorsements, etc etc.
RE: Voice Recorder
I've long lusted after any number of WM devices. But every single one of them is missing one critical feature: the Palm OS. Now if they could just add that....
The TX looks like my next device, even with the "missing features." No camera is expected in the Tungsten line. But no VR is a bummer. No charging light and vibrating alarm is maddening! Even my cheapy cell phone has vibrating alarm and a charging light.
I'm still waiting for the mythical "color HandEra."
RE: Voice Recorder
First we don't know that the new Palm will be $299. Secondly you are obviously out of touch with Pocket PC prices if you think they are higher.
RE: Voice Recorder
This website is in German...duh. Babelfish isn't working with it.
RE: Voice Recorder
I know about Dell, but wireless PDA's command higher prices, and the ASP's for PPC's are traditionally higher. If you don't believe me google a bit.
Surur
RE: Voice Recorder
"Down at nexave.de someone who claims to have a T(X+) in his hands, started a thread and is answering questions. Since Friday."This website is in German...duh. Babelfish isn't working with it.
For your delectation.
Surur
RE: Voice Recorder
Given the number of Palm users I've seen say this same thing, I'm shocked that nobody has yet produced a UI replacement for PPC that mimics Palm.
RE: Voice Recorder
mobileministrymagazine.com
antoinerjwright.com
RE: Voice Recorder
yes but its thicker than the m505 1.4cm vs. 1.1cm. Big difference as the width is what you feel in your pocket.
Waiting for the day Palm makes 1.1cm-thick devices again. I just bought a E2 which I assumed was the same thickness as my old Tungsten E (1.3cm) turns out its 1.5cm which makes a mockery of the whole idea of the V/Vx/m5xx/E range - i.e. it should be THIN.
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Ash
RE: Voice Recorder
NC311........ 110mm x 70mm x 13.7mm
Tungsten T5 121mm x 78mm x 15.0mm
Palm M505...114mm x 77mm x 12.7mm
http://euro.palmone.com/uk/en/products/palmm505/palmm505datasheet_en.pdf
With only a 1 mm difference, the real difference is only 8%, vs your numbers, which place it at 27% thicker. Ironically I was able to confirm the numbers from the Palm site only because I can open downloaded PDF's directly on my pocketpc, which you would not be able to on Palm handhelds (besides stolen software of course).
Surur
Almost official
Tungsten X GREAT but a LITTLE LATE!!!
RE: Tungsten X GREAT but a LITTLE LATE!!!
Concerning Th TXX rumored device; it would be innovation if in the majority of users, they have a better user experience than similarly equipped items that have come out before. Like apple with iPod, its only innovative when someone did it before, but you do it better.
mobileministrymagazine.com
antoinerjwright.com
RE: Tungsten X GREAT but a LITTLE LATE!!!
RE: Tungsten X GREAT but a LITTLE LATE!!!
But seriously, the Treo lineup is as close to a revolution in innovatoin PDAs have seen in a while. Its not by any means perfect, just an all around good execution that none of its competitors have gotten right. One cannot knock that. In fact, Palm probably should be applauded for not messing up the Treo with the 650 (no comment on what I think of a WM Treo).
mobileministrymagazine.com
antoinerjwright.com
RE: Tungsten X GREAT but a LITTLE LATE!!!
Man, I was just thinking nearly the same thing. This thing would have been a yawner last year when the T5 disaster was released. Twizza's right about connected devices, but boy Palm must have relegated about 3 fresh out of college engineers to refresh the T|E again and not do anything crazy.
I can understand sticking with a successful form factor, but dropping IMPORTANT features that have already been developed and tested boggles my mind. I'm not even talking WiFi g or OLED here. Just vibralarms and charging/alarm LEDs and the VR. Unbelievable to me and this aint no RAZR thin form factor that has kept them from benig able to pack these in.
Don't get me wrong WiFi + BT is better late (real late) than never on a decent sized Palm, and I'm grateful. But the incompetence of throwing away these features tells me that Palm has given up on the PDA and is doin little more than miling what they veiw as the last remaining dollars out before their done away with.
I hope that my T3 will hold out until 2014. This is sad, unless a worthy flagship is in the wings? Just saddened for another season.
See http://www.palminfocenter.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=28737&sid=cc3a1df72c14fa100549a90aa1f401e2
Pat Horne; www.churchoflivingfaith.com
No...Voice...MEMO?!?!?!?!?!?!?!!?!?!?!?!?!?!!?
I thought this would have voice memo!! Forget about a stupid camera, i have enough of those!!
Oh well, i wasn't really holding my breath anyway.
Plus, it still has these problems:
1. Home is only on a button
2. Garnet 5.4.99999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999
3. 312 Mhz??
I may still get one of these though, because i can still use one of those stand-alone digital recorders. I also like the way it looks and the built in Wi-Fi.
But, i already carry a cell phone and PDA. I would prefer that my PDA has voice memo.
Still waiting for Cobalt...Garnet 5.99999999999999999999999 will not cut it in 2006.
RE: No...Voice...MEMO?!?!?!?!?!?!?!!?!?!?!?!?!?!!?
Give them a break - I was tired of upgrading twice a year anyhow, and with the snail's pace of marginally upgraded handhelds it means the 3-year old PDAs aren't at all obsolete.
Palm - if it works, it'll work (for now) ©.
RE: No...Voice...MEMO?!?!?!?!?!?!?!!?!?!?!?!?!?!!?
RE: No...Voice...MEMO?!?!?!?!?!?!?!!?!?!?!?!?!?!!?
I am sure you could do an SDIO mic or USB interface mic via the Athena connector but what'd be the point in a kludge like that?
Remember, as Kirvin says, VR isn't that important on a new Palm device as most new cell phones & some MP3 players have that feature built in!
I still cannot fathom how they saw fit to put a voice recorder in the Zire 72 but not in any Tungsten released in the past two years.
RE: No...Voice...MEMO?!?!?!?!?!?!?!!?!?!?!?!?!?!!?
mobileministrymagazine.com
antoinerjwright.com
RE: No...Voice...MEMO?!?!?!?!?!?!?!!?!?!?!?!?!?!!?
From Ryan's PIC review of the 72:
"Audio
The Zire 72 has a rear mounted speaker in the metal mesh below the camera lens. The speaker is quite loud and mp3's and voice memos sound very clear, though most will opt for using headphones (not included) for listening to music. For listening to music files, the Zire 72 ships with the RealOne player. The microphone is also hidden behind the rear grill, which is used for the voice and movie recorder."
RE: No...Voice...MEMO?!?!?!?!?!?!?!!?!?!?!?!?!?!!?
I'm still waiting for the mythical "color HandEra."
RE: No...Voice...MEMO?!?!?!?!?!?!?!!?!?!?!?!?!?!!?
mobileministrymagazine.com
antoinerjwright.com
RE: No...Voice...MEMO?!?!?!?!?!?!?!!?!?!?!?!?!?!!?
But remember---no one REALLY needs a VR in their PDA as that functionality is built into most modern cell phones & many MP3 players! ;-)
where's the update for the tungsten C?
Wish I had enough money to buy the PALM company. I would go in first day and tell them exactly what to build. They wouldn't need to THINK or INNOVATE at all, only EXECUTE or be FIRED.
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David
RE: where's the update for the tungsten C?
http://www.churchoflivingfaith.com/images/tc2adhalf.JPG
Pat Horne; www.churchoflivingfaith.com
RE: where's the update for the tungsten C?
With 128MB memory or more,
I'd even put up with needing bigger pants pockets!
Chris
Tungsten C, Palm IIIxe, Wizard OZ-9520
"Quando Omni Flunkus Moritati"
Sell Palm to Apple...
If apple had the hardware, they'd innovate and produce a beautiful PDA with all the bells and whistles.
I'll probably upgrade to T/X but this won't be my ideal PDA. I'm upgrading from T3 because of support for larger SD cards. I'm tired of switching card to watch movies and listen to MP3 files. I'll consider LD2 or LD3 in feature. Hopefully LD3 will strike a nice upgrade like T3 was for Tungsten line.
RE: Sell Palm to Apple...
I don't think Apple would help Palm innovate at all as far as features such as voice recorder/etc. are concerned.
RE: Sell Palm to Apple...
Dollar general store toys have most of this stuff and they are huge benefits on a PDA, but nope. My old Nokia sludge-phone had vibralarms and my kids battery toys have LED ... I'm bewildered.
Sorry. ... then I see the X51v is announced. Uggggggggh.
Pat Horne; www.churchoflivingfaith.com
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