Digitimes Claims a Palm Linux-Based Smartphone Due This Year

This is a giggle - it TOTALLY reminds me of The Infamous Cramer Video and what Cramer said he'd do if he had to "knock down RIMM":

== "...Then you would call the [Wall Street] Journal and you would
== get the bozo reporter on Research in Motion, and you would feed
== that Palm’s got a killer that it’s going to give away..."

-- http://www.midasoracle.org/2007/03/27/jim-cramers-market-manipulation-101/

Lol!

SV you spat your venom at Palm for the last few days on this forum about a lacking OS development, Foleo folly, etc. regarding their smartphones. Today a report comes that they are releasing a new Linux OS smartphone this fall. Instead of acknowledging/applauding or at least acknowledging the new Linux based OS smartphone as a good venture, you attempt to justify your rants by ATTACKING MORE. :0))

Some people may have to live with the fact that Palm just won't die when a doomsdayer says it so. ;) For the stock investor, this is fun. Three years ago we played this same game. "Palm is doomed," cried the blogging critics. A few weeks later PalmOne emerged. A few months later I heard, "Cha-chink."

Linux smartphones are going to SELL big for PALM!!! (Windows Mobile is clunky. Sorry but it is.) If this thing connects simply to a simple Foleo, the whole PALM enterprise may sore higher than ever. It's about user experience and performance.

(Also, I tried the iPhone for one week. Concluded that it can't be Treo or Blackberry replacement for business as it is now.)

Huh?

No, he apparently believes the CEO lied from the get-go and never meant this at all:

== "...Michael Ounjian - Credit Suisse
==
== Great. Thanks for taking the question. I guess Ed, could you
== give us an update as to how we should think about the timing
== of new products coming out, just related to your sort of
== broader platform strategy and than also related to the new
== operating system development efforts?
==
== Ed Colligan
==
== Yeah. Well, in general a new platform strategy I think that's,
== next calendar year is the timeframe. We are not going to get
== into specifics on that. I think the reality is we will deliver
== some new smartphone products through the rest of this calendar
== year on both our Windows Mobile and Palm OS platforms. And
== product based on the new Linux-based platform that we are
== working on, that won't be until some time next year..."

-- http://seekingalpha.com/article/39702

SV earlier said that Colligan "unambiguously" said Palm would not release a Linux handheld until 2008. Now he gives the direct quote which never says this "unambiguously." Again, SV OVERSTATES THE CASE. "I think" is what Colligan said in June. When coupled with statements made by Colligan in April that they may release a Linux handheld in late '07 you can see that "I think" is quite a few steps removed from "unambious." Anyone reading the context of it all can reason that it is possible that Colligan is describing a company working to get a product out but is unsure about delivery times. Of course SV could jadedly be confused that my interpretation is that Colligan is a bold-faced "liar." Or maybe the attack on Palm planning was a "lie from the get-go and never meant at all." :)

Again, I don't care if they release a Linux handheld this fall or next year. Just calling out the ranting & ridiculous cynicism.

ridiculous cynicism

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Modus_operandi


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> ...Suppose while the new OS is under development they took a baby
> step toward a new Linux OS that looks more like a port of the Garnet
> middleware to a Linux kernel than a completely new OS like ACCESS has
> created...

"Garnet middleware" ==> "Garnet GUI" et al?

> ...They *would* however rewrite a few key built-in applications...

"rewrite" ==> "not Garnet compatible in reality"?

> ...From the user standpoint, this OS could look and feel very much
> like Palm OS Garnet...

That is ALL I think PALM will port. At most.

Huh?

David et al;

On a more technical note, did we ever determine with absolute certainly IS FrankenGarnet could handle the requirements for EVDO Rev. A (forget about Rev B & HSDPA for the time being)?

I was always under the assumption until the very latest round of rumors about the Centro that Rev.0 was as good as it was going to get in regards to 3G connectivity in a Garnet-based device (barring some major OS hacking from Palm).

IF Palm has managed to get Rev.A working under Garnet (how would it be possible without true multitasking for the simultaneous voice & data?), then that would lead to a logical conclusion that some $ had been spend to shore up Garnet. So it'd be foolish for Palm to abandon it after this one final model....and the Treo 680's new phone app UI would also be dead in the water after appearing on just two phones as well.

I would not be too terribly surprised if somehow Palm gets out a slightly refreshed Garnet (OS 5.5, perhaps?) for this Centro and perhaps another device or two in '08. They could borrow a few UI bits from both PLinux and the refreshed Garnet UI bits on the 700p/680 while adding in, say, EVDO Rev. A support and A2Dp into Garnet That would let them coast along for another year pretty decently (at least with CDMA carriers).

The Centro could be Palm's "hip" new lower-cost line that would exclusively run devices based on the updated Garnet. Then the flagship Treo line could be a hodge-podge of rebranded WM devices and carryover Garnet 5.4.9 models that are replaced over the next 6-9 months with PLinux units.

Not a bad strategy, actually. We've actually seen this in minor fashion before from Palm. Recall how the Tungsten W of 2002 was the final OS 4 unit and borrowed some tech from the new OS5 line (320x320 screen res, primarily).

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And we now know what the fooleo is all about ... It's a case of getting some hardware (anything) running the new OS out the door early for developers. ie the fooleo is a developer's prototype platform.

Linux to Be the Fastest-Growing Smartphone OS over the Next 5 Years, According to ABI Research

Last update: 8/28/2007 8:15:01 AMLONDON, Aug 28, 2007 (BUSINESS WIRE) --

Over the next 5 years, Linux is expected to be the fastest growing Smartphone OS with a compound annual growth rate in excess of 75%. By 2012, a recent study from ABI Research forecasts the Linux-based OS to account for nearly 31% of all smart devices in the market -- representing more than 331 million cumulative shipments over the same period. Research director Stuart Carlaw states, "Serious initiatives from the likes of Intel and Access are gathering pace and momentum, whilst the carrier community continues to identify Linux as one of the few operating systems that it intends to support in its long-term plans." Carlaw adds, "Linux is benefiting from growing support in the handset OEM community, most notably Motorola, but also Nokia with less traditional types of devices aimed at mobile broadband applications." The rise of mobile broadband and the impact that this has upon device convergence and format plays into the hands of Linux. The vertical and horizontal fragmentation that has plagued this market continues to be a concern; however, the recent patent infringement assertions from Microsoft -- that Linux, in its generic form, infringes upon 235 of its patents -- is an ongoing concern. Many Linux pundits point to this as being old hat, while others indicate that there is no smoke without fire. The ABI Research study entitled, "Mobile Linux"( Linux) found that there are several challenges still facing the proliferation of Linux in this environment. This study explores these barriers, provides a frank SWOT analysis of the mobile Linux offering, and supplies forecasts for Linux uptake in mobile devices for commercial OS implementations and RTOS replacement. It forms part of ABI Research's annual Mobile Devices Research Service ( Service), which includes other Research Reports, Research Briefs, Market Data, Online Databases, ABI Insights, and Analyst Inquiry Support. (Due to their lengths, these URLs may need to be copied/pasted into your Internet browser's address field. Remove the extra space if one exists.)

Founded in 1990 and headquartered in New York, ABI Research maintains global operations supporting annual research programs, intelligence services, and market reports in broadband and multimedia, RFID and M2M, wireless connectivity, mobile wireless, transportation, and emerging technologies.

For information, visit , or call +1.516.624.2500. SOURCE: ABI Research
ABI ResearchNicole Fabris, 516-624-2542pr@abiresearch.com

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