Treo 680 Compatible with 8gb SDHC Cards

hk:

You don't have to stock up on TXs just yet. If Palm announces that it is stopping TX production and not making a TX|2, there will still be plenty of stock in the channels for many weeks.

I do however use a T5 as a backup to my Tx.

I'm sure Apple would much rather have been selling DRM-free tracks. So would any online music vendor, really. It's more about keeping the record labels happy than anything else. Amusingly, by insisting on DRM, they've effectively locked themselves out of controlling the digital download business and ceded all the power to Apple. Now Apple have a near-monopoly on both digital players and music, which is partly thanks to iPod lock-in via DRM.

And the record companies? They can't do the things they want to do, like variable pricing (a questionable notion at best, considering that digital distribution means the "Supply" has been removed from "Supply & Demand"). Apple for all intents and purposes is the market, and they'll sell the music however they please. If a label decides to try anything silly like withdrawing their music from the iTunes Store, all they'll succeed in doing is nuking their own digital sales figures and giving a free kick to rival labels who stuck with Apple.

The market's still in its infancy and Apple's domination will eventually be eroded. Most likely by Microsoft, I'm guessing: the first Zune is a fairly laughable effort, but MS are famous for starting out with a bare-bones, generally crappy product and building on it relentlessly in the "Money means nothing" fashion that only MS can do. Look at the Xbox 360, for instance. Or even Windows.

And personally, while not a fan of Apple, I think they deserve their success: the iPod was marketed well and is quite a decent value for its price. I do think Jobs is an arrogant turtleneck-wearing jerk and the nasty side of me can't wait to see one of his creations bomb miserably, just to explode the myth that's built up around him...

Tim
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Treo 270 ---> Treo 650 ---> Crimson Treo 680

$600.00 Treo line

...$399 Treo line, or free with contract...

The Sony Ericsson Walkman series obviously have full 3.5 mm headphone jacks, as do my HTC Universal, as does the Loox T830. Its not as uncommon as you suppose.

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>>Standard audio jack in a cell phone?

"intarweb" in a "cell phone"? "e-mail" in a "cell phone"? "Palm Operating System" in a "cell phone"?... If the Treo is just a "cell phone" then WTF does all the advertising Palm plasters about seem to indicate that it's at least a little bit more?

When it suits Palm, they call it a "smartphone," and IMHO it isn't too "smart" to design such a device so a kludge (which puts your "cell phone" jack at serious risk of damage) is necessary to access MP3s and streaming audio - or is the included Pockettunes just something they are marketing to listen to through the speaker or that throwaway headset they include....?

>>Bluetooth headsets are pretty widespread nowadays and have made the need for compatibility with handsfree kits less important.

Considering the well documented fact that the Treo bluetooth drops even their own bluetooth headset at random - they better NOT remove the 2.5mm port! Unless your only calls are "listen only" and that through the built-in speaker!

>$600.00 Treo line
>>...$399 Treo line, or free with contract...

http://web.palm.com/products/communicators/config/carrier_sprint.jhtml?_requestid=67905

OOPS - I meant *$649.00*, not $600.00. Or perhaps you can cite a reliable source to walk in with $399 cash and walk out with a CMDA Sprint Treo without taking on a contract?

Just because they "give" you a rebate up front when you agree to a 2 year contract doesn't mean the phone is that price - that's foolish thinking. They are giving you a "discount" off the retail price of that phone because you agreed to a contract with them where they will make multiples of that rebate money back from you over a couple years - it's built into the plan. Sure, there are scams and retention plans and other ways to drop the prices - but the MSRP is the basis they are telling you it's "worth" in order to make the "discounts" palatable. Or did you think the Carriers were just being nice to you?

If you believe that the price of your undercoating was "free" (and by the way you had to buy a new car in order to get it) then I wish I were selling new cars in your vicinity - I'll give you all the "free undercoating" you want!

>I don't like Apple.
>They are pro DRM,
The music labels that they have to please to get the rights to sell the movie are the pro DRM ones, I think you'll find. The only major music store that doesn't use DRM is allofmp3... and they're not exactly legit, are they? I mean, let's compare them to Microsoft - look at the Zune. That's DRMed to all hell.

>arrogant,
Not really, but that's a kind-of baseless claim.

>and they don't deserve the iPod success.
How so? They made the first decent hard disk based MP3 player - the first one with a decent UI, fast syncing (first to have firewire), and the first truly usable product. It's not just a coincidence.

>Palm should of owned that entire market for years with PDAs that play music
Even though that's what I use my TX for, I still have to admit it's not the best solution - it's got less storage, less battery life, and is nowhere near as simple. But it has it's advantages (like internet radio).

>Palm was SO close to getting it right
Umm, they've kinda been screwing things up more or less since Palm OS 5. Beats Windows Mobile, but it ain't nice, and could be a lot better.

Palm TX + 1GB SD + Motorola v3x = awesomeness

Joad;

I thought someone as edumacated and possessing such erudite wit as yourself would at least have read the full text of my news item before asking about 700p compatibility!

;-)

3rd paragraph of the news item:

"My personal testing with the exact same Transcend 8gb SDHC card on my Treo 700p and Palm TX proved to be utterly fruitless--the Treo 680 is the only Palm device currently offering even unofficial support for SDHC cards."

The 8gb SDHC card isn't even recognized as being inserted in the slot in my TX or my 700p. It works flawlessly on my Casio EX-Z850 digital camera. I'm actually in the process of preparing a full roundup & survey of which devices (between all of the SD slot-brandishing devices in my personal collection & whatever is at work)

Pilot 1000-->Pilot 5000-->PalmPilot Pro-->IIIe-->Vx-->m505-->T|T-->T|T2-->T|C-->T|T3-->T|T5-->TX-->Treo 700P

Ah - figured out what happened: for some odd reason PIC truncates the story in some views. Weird. But I'll wear your comments anyway - I'll miss something else soon!

I'm reading on a PC at the moment - this URL: http://www.palminfocenter.com/comments/9158/#128451

You think you are looking at the entire article, but you aren't...

Seems that there are 2 article views possible - but they look very similar except for the amount of story showing and the "return to story" stylized silver/black/white button that is hard to read on an LCD screen.

Time has made the 700p question moot I think, as people are reporting success with the SDHC driver transfer 680->700p. Yeah!!

grimpeur,
I moved from a Lifedrive to a Treo 680. Guess what? The File Transfer application (Lifedrive Manager) and Drive Mode are NOT available on the Treo 680. You have to get 3rd party applications (buggy) that sometimes work and sometimes don't. I really miss my Lifedrive for this feature. Being able to drag and drop my music, documents, movies to my pda in a few seconds is gone. The process now is: open SD compartment, remove card, put card in reader, move files, remove card from reader, put back on Treo, close compartment. Lets see, why does Apple deserve its success with Ipod again?

And no, the Lifedrive applications do not work on a Treo 680 at its present state (not compatible with 320x320 screen format).

"Give Softick Card Export a try; it turns your Palm into a standard USB drive. Drag and drop to your heart's content."

I did and it crashes half of the time corrupting the files in the card. I have no option but to stick to the physical card reader.

Cardreader just came out with a Bluetooth version. It works great on my TX...

Bquin
...laughing at a world too absurd to take seriously...

So just to check guys,

When I use one of these bits of software and have the 8GB card in the 680 plugged into my PC, I will see a 8GB drive ( or 7.xGB formatted ) appear under my file system for me to copy files to. In other words does it behave exactly like DriveMode??

I copied Palm's drive mode app from a friend's T5 to my TX using Resco Explorer - that works fine for me. Wonder if it will on the 680.

Palm TX + 1GB SD + Motorola v3x = awesomeness

"I copied Palm's drive mode app from a friend's T5 to my TX using Resco Explorer - that works fine for me. Wonder if it will on the 680."

It did not work for me. Like grimpeur said, it is a problem of screen resolution.

Someone at treocentral said that the "Lifedrive Manager" recognized the Treo 680's SD card. Mine didn't.

It would be very smart if Palm includes these T5/Lifedrive applications in future versions of the Palm Desktop. With the Treo line being so versatile, moving music, documents and movies is as important as the Hotsync utility.

I know you can pay for third party applications, but how much does the Itunes software cost?

I am aware that it won't work out of the box. Now what I want to know is can you hack the SD drivers, in the way you can hack the fat drivers to make the 650 read 4gb cards