Palm: No Plans to Join Google's Open Handset Alliance
Palm Inc. has no plans to join Google's newly announced Open Handset Alliance at this time according to statements from Palm representatives when reached for comment today.
Google's new Linux based mobile operating system announced earlier today is backed by a new consortium of companies called the Open Handset Alliance and notably includes many of Palm's current partners and competitors. Google's efforts with Android will directly compete with Palm's own mobile linux project as well as its Windows Mobile business. Read on for a official statement from Palm.
Palm's official statement on today's Google & Open Handset Alliance news is:
Palm has always been committed to open platforms for developers. And Palm has the added differentiation of being able to tightly integrate the software platform with our hardware design, which we believe gives us an advantage in delivering a great user experience.Palm customers have benefited from the availability of Google services on Palm’s platform, such as Google Maps for mobile on Palm OS. And we look forward to further collaboration with Google to offer great user experiences on Palm products.
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RE: What Palm means is:
:-D
Pat Horne
RE: What Palm means is:
Palm is right to shun it
Code to take advantage of all that is going to be a hell of a lot fatter than it needs to be (think Vista x 4!).
Users aren't going to be able to buy software with the assurance it will run on *their* handset (hey, have fun researching software for your *Symbian* phone -- you have to know *which fekkin UI* it has!).
This has all the hallmarks of success the old USSR had.
Fail, fail, fail.
Apple must be very happy today.
And Colligan must be breathing a big sigh of relief (though he should still resign, dammit!).
RE: Palm is right to shun it
RE: Palm is right to shun it
RE: Palm is right to shun it
Palm have no more reason to join the Alliance than they do the Empire: controlling their own OS is their major point of difference and biggest attraction. And after all the pain they've gone through in spinning it off, losing control and buying it back, they're hardly likely to want to just throw it all away again...
RE: Palm is right to shun it
RE: Palm is right to shun it
Nor do I think any of you will be impressed when such phones start d...r...i...b...b...l...i...n...g out.
This is absolutely nothing to get excited over.
Next!
RE: Palm is right to shun it
That comment on TreoCentral said it best:
-- http://discussion.treocentral.com/showpost.php?p=1371276&postcount=18
One week til that Handset Alliance SDK gets released - an SDK that includes:
== "...Rubin: "It's an amazing UI -- it's interface is top-notch..."
So much for Palm's "special sauce"...
RE: Palm is right to shun it Let's take silly speculation...
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When PALM threw away the Fooleo's Linux and opted to go with a co-developed Linux with Windriver, they did so because Google had just approached them and said "This is coming". Then they threw away the Fooleo entirely and announced they needed to concentrate on a SINGLE OS for all their devices.
Someone REALLY needs to ask Andy Brown today if Windriver is still on-board in a major way.
RE: Palm is right to shun it
Who knows what this is, in my book though, there's just not a lot of promise in this mealy mouthed move into the mobile space by google. Blogged a li'l bit more about it. http://tinyurl.com/2xoxc3
<http://comments.deasil.com/> that is my tech blog. There are many like it, but that one is mine.
RE: Palm is right to shun it
Oh yeah, there IS that terrible "google maps" application. But it's so unreliable and has an awful GUI, they should stick to just "search," eh? Thankfully we have Mapopolis still available for purchase.
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**Another vote for a >100MB RAM Treo**
RE: Palm is right to shun it
Right now about the only knock I can come up with against Google Maps is that it's not 320x480 compatible and they don't post a change log on their site when they release a new version of the app.
Pilot 1000-->Pilot 5000-->PalmPilot Pro-->IIIe-->Vx-->m505-->T|T-->T|T2-->T|C-->T|T3-->T|T5-->TX-->Treo 700P
RE: Palm is right to shun it
> Maps is that it's not 320x480 compatible...
!!!
Is that right?
I have Google Maps for Mobile on my SE520A. If it's compatible with THAT screen, I'd think it was compatible with 320x480, too (or just about anything else).
RE: Palm is right to shun it
(I've not been denigrating Google here, if that's the impression some have got. I've been spitting on this motley crew of corporations that would screw up the best of plans. Symbian redux...)
RE: Palm is right to shun it
Google Mobile Maps under PALM OS (Garnet/OS 5 etc) is limited to 320x320. Google supports 320x480 etc. on OTHER platforms but they've decided to limit their POS support to 320x320. This is probably due to the fact that Palm will never again produce a non square-screened device after the TX is EOL.
P.S. I was chiming in with Joad on my TT comments and it was all tongue in cheek. TT's abandoned WM and soon, POS, in favor of their own standalone GPS units.
So right now Garmin is the last man standing for POS GPS software solutions, pretty much.
Pilot 1000-->Pilot 5000-->PalmPilot Pro-->IIIe-->Vx-->m505-->T|T-->T|T2-->T|C-->T|T3-->T|T5-->TX-->Treo 700P
Google Services and Palm
In 18 months (!!) Google's Android will be a recognized and possible well-supported phone OS. After 18 months of no innovation, Palm won't even have shelf-space.
Palm should at least join the consortium just to hedge their bets. Get a clue, guys!
RE: Google Services and Palm
It's already easy to see they're lumbering dinosaurs; have them admit that they're WRONG on top of it would only hammer the last few nails in their coffin.
The best solution for Palm is to finish their Palm OS II and make sure it's available on some cutting edge hardware. Granted, past history being an indicator, it's not looking too good for them, but that would be their best shot.
-e
RE: Google Services and Palm
This is really more about making sure they have a foothold in the mobile space so competitors like Microsoft can't ever shut them out.
RE: Google Services and Palm
Hey, who knows, Palm might even be able to contribute something...
Plus, when it does become apparent that OS2 won't see the light of day ala Cobalt, they can gracefully say that "due to parallel development, we have decided to concentrate on Android as our primary OS kernel, of course with own zen-like UI on top of it.
RE: Google Services and Palm
Power and money.
Welcome to planet earth.
Palm will bury Google
Ballmer's threat last November was recounted in a sworn declaration by a former Microsoft engineer, Mark Lucovsky, who said he met with Microsoft's chief executive 10 months ago to discuss his decision to leave the company after six years.
After learning Lucovsky was leaving to take a job at Google, Ballmer picked up his chair and hurled it across his office, according to the declaration.
Ballmer then pejoratively berated Google CEO Eric Schmidt, Lucovsky recalled.
"I'm going to f---ing bury that guy, I have done it before, and I will do it again," the declaration quotes Ballmer. "I'm going to f---ing kill Google."
Before joining Google, Schmidt was a top executive at Sun Microsystems Inc. and Novell Inc., a pair of tech companies that Microsoft has previously battled.
RE: Palm will bury Google
RE: Palm will bury Google
I don't want Google to be the next Microsoft, but I do want MS to get brought down to at least a level playing field. I've grown tired of the "fallout" from their OS/Office monopoly. That is of course a huge reason for my move to opensource. I don't think MS (or anyone else) can kill OSS.
Thinking about Vista? Think again: http://www.cs.auckland.ac.nz/~pgut001/pubs/vista_cost.txt
Want an alternative? Try this: http://www.ubuntu.com/ or http://www.mepis.org/
RE: Palm will bury Google
It's too late.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nc4MzqBFxZE
RE: Palm will bury Google
The "Developers" remix is quite "interesting" as well: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KMU0tzLwhbE
Thinking about Vista? Think again: http://www.cs.auckland.ac.nz/~pgut001/pubs/vista_cost.txt
Want an alternative? Try this: http://www.ubuntu.com/ or http://www.mepis.org/
We won't or we can't?
Real loser is Access and ALP
RE: Real loser is Access and ALP
The statement from PALM says no such thing
Unless PIC has private undisclosed information directly from PALM insiders over and above that statement this article should be r-Titled and radically changed to reflect the reality of PALM's actual words and what they do and do NOT say.
RE: The statement from PALM says no such thing
Why not wait and see?
And if it doesn't pan out, Palm would have added yet another year to the wait for a new Palm OS.
The last thing Palm needs to do now is get distracted and delay their new OS yet again. They're already years overdue.
If the Google stuff turns into something great in a year, Palm can always port to it later.
"All opinions posted are my own, and not those of my employers, who are appalled."
RE: Why not wait and see?
Only publicly - reports say they have shown it to potential partners and it has been under development for three years.
> ...It might turn into something good, but it might not...
True.
> ...and in any case, it will be another year before we find out.
Well...no.
They're releasing an SDK next week; we should know then.
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