Live Pic of the Treo 800w Spotted
Longtime Palm OS ROM hacker Shadowmite has posted what appears to be one of the first shots of an Treo 800 / Palm Zeppelin prototype device. The picture matches up with most of the earlier leaked renderings and presents a clear view of the long awaited new Palm smartphone.
Unfortunately there are no major new details or confirmation of existing rumored specs along with the picture. The little tidbit the source does confirm is that the device uses a new micro USB connector.
Read on for the full sized pic. * Updated with side view.
Update: The Treo 800w has been released on Sprint. You can read our first impressions review here.
While official specs have been very slow to emerge, the general consensus among the rumors that have surfaced say that the Treo 800w will be powered by Windows Mobile 6.1 Professional, have a 320x320 recessed touchscreen, a ~400mhz CPU and 128mb of RAM with 256mb of ROM. It should also achieve a series of notable milestones, such as Palm's first EVDO REV-A handset, Palm's only GPS-enabled device, and Palm's first smartphone with integrated wi-fi capabilities. Bluetooth 2.0 with A2DP and a 2.0megapixel camera round out the hardware specs.
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RE: plain looking
Surur
RE: plain looking
How interesting - those were my thoughts exactly (but I didn't want to post first! Ha ha ha!)
But...hey!...it's a prototype, right?
RE: plain looking
I had expected the screen to be more flush with the device myself given that was pointed out in the Palm Drucker slide leak. Perhaps that is indeed a separate device after all.
Judging from the pic the width looks about the same as a 750/755p due to the keyboard size, but the real question is how thin or thick the device remains.
RE: plain looking
Surur
RE: plain looking
However, I wouldn't go so far as to call it the 750 to the 700w/wx, though. More like the Palm III to the Palm Pilot. Same basic size, just slightly sleeker and more modern looking.
I do not expect there to be any performance hardware differences (screen, RAM etc) between the two other than the casing, flush LCD, and GSM vs. CDMA radios. Of course, knowing Sprint & Verizon, the GPS and/or wi-fi of the CDMA version might be crippled in some capacity.
Since we're in a speculative mood, I figure on the IR port being jettisoned alongside the Athena connector. I also would LOVE to see the 2.5mm headset jack replaced by a 3.5mm stereo headphone jack but, knowing Palm, they'll probably just go entirely Bluetooth. We might as well get used to this formfactor, as I recknon the first Nova device to use this exact FF or a slightly modified version of it.
Pilot 1000->Pilot 5000->PalmPilot Pro->IIIe->Vx->m505->T|T->T|T2->T|C->T|T3->T|T5->Zodiac 2->TX->Verizon Treo 700P->Verizon Treo 755p
RE: plain looking
But if you remember, Centro prototype pics were also much uglier than the final version - I hope the same is true here
C'Mon Baby. I Give Up!
Pat Horne
RE: C'Mon Baby. I Give Up!
Looking at the picture closely, you can see ceiling A/C vents and those square tiles that every office uses for ceilings.
Note to self - start looking for reflections of Nova prototypes in screen reflections from leaked product pics.
RE: C'Mon Baby. I Give Up!
No!!!!?
You don't think PALM would PURPOSEFULLY leak this, do ya!?
Sheesh.
RE: C'Mon Baby. I Give Up!
There's a stenographic message in that photo:
"Pleez. Sum1 help uz. Colligan iz crazee!"
This took two years
RE: This took two years
Nah - he showed up in August or so. Though there doesn't appear to be anything excitingly new in this device, the lead time requirements STILL are more than the time he's been with PALM.
Serial number plainly visible in original photo
'V' for Verizon? Vodafone? Victory?
PalmOS
RE: PalmOS
I suspect that folks who think like me represent such a small portion of the marketplace that this opinion will have no weight at all with PDA and Smartphone developers.
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PalmPilot Pro (1997) -> III (1998) -> Vx (1999) -> m500 (2001) -> m515 (2002) -> Tx (2007)
RE: PalmOS
RE: PalmOS
RE: PalmOS
The CDMA version of the 800w might be able to get by on specs, formfactor & price....especially with weaker competition in the Sprint/Verizon/Alltel world (at least for the first 3-4 months until the new BBs start to arrive).
GSM is gonna be another story. Palm MUST come in high style or be super-aggressive on pricing. Here's hoping for the 800w GSM/Drucker (I wouldn't be surprised if they call it the Treo 850, actually) to be along the lines of the recent slew of monolithic, shiny, fingerprint-prone black slab-esque handsets being releaed or heading to market. Not really my cup of tea personally, but it appears that's what the market wants to see nowadays.
P.S. I haven't been keeping up.....anyone know if WM 6.1 Pro still supports "block character" input a.k.a. Classic Graffiti 1?
Wouldn't that be just tragic? To have to buy a WM-powered smartphone just to get the G1 functionality offered by classic Palm OS PDAs!
Pilot 1000->Pilot 5000->PalmPilot Pro->IIIe->Vx->m505->T|T->T|T2->T|C->T|T3->T|T5->Zodiac 2->TX->Verizon Treo 700P->Verizon Treo 755p
Is the world waiting for this?
Unless it has a Centro-like price, who would want it? Other WM phones have better features. This is a We've Finally Caught Up device.
Even if they expect Palm WM to buy it as an upgrade, I think those customers are already looking at other phones.
So, is this FAIL?
RE: Is the world waiting for this?
I can see lots of Palm first's on this product, but those features are already available on the market for a long while already. Palm is really too late in bringing products to the market.
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With great power comes great responsiblity.
RE: Is the world waiting for this?
They probably don't even start building them without some sort of carrier commitment. Given pricing elsewhere (e.g., the Blackberry Bold getting priced out at $200-ish), PALM's margins might take ANOTHER hit, but they probably have sold a few already.
Probably.
But it WOULD be interesting if they pulled a Fooleo on us, huh?
Doesn't matter
I will be in line for it even if it looks so awefully plain. All I can say is that it better perform so I don't have to look at the design so much. It's okay but I would have preferred the 750 look over this...........
SIDE VIEW ... Looks Better
http://discussion.treocentral.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=17032&d=1210957922
Pat Horne
RE: SIDE VIEW ... Looks Better
RE: SIDE VIEW ... Looks Better
This phone is UGLY!
In what year are the Palm people living? Haven't they look at the phones the competition is producing... iPhone, Curve, Bold, even those Motorola bricks look sexier than this dull design.
Palm has been producing the same type of phones for so many years that is actually difficult to tell each of them apart.
Rumors? Crap. Time for Palm to 'leak' a 'specs page'.
Be REAL Careful Out There!
WAY too many Me-Too Media folks have NO PROBLEM pulling "facts" out of the air completely without reality to back them up, then stating them as unambiguous facts until someone comes back at them and says "WAITAMINUTE!".
And then the OTHER Me-Too Media folks QUOTE them! (which is, of course, why they're labeled "Me-Too Media"...).
Maybe Palm will soon leak the specs, too
At least we're back to blurry photos - MUCH more realistic!
RE: Maybe Palm will soon leak the specs, too
RE: Maybe Palm will soon leak the specs, too
OR they could be non-functional dummy models/shells/mockups.
More curious is that we haven't seen the back panel, left side, top or bottom of the device.
It's like they are intentionally trying to cover up some missing/still-present feature--but what could it be--Athena connector instead of microUSB, 3.5mm headphone jack, no wi-fi switch, no ring/vibrate switch????
P.S. I'm glad to see IR still in there. Sure, most people don't use it but it doesn't bring any drawbacks to the table with its inclusion and it's THERE if you DO want to use/need it (IR sync to an old laptop, use as a TV remote control etc). And the 800w's memory card door looks to be considerably easier to access than the Centro's.
Pilot 1000->Pilot 5000->PalmPilot Pro->IIIe->Vx->m505->T|T->T|T2->T|C->T|T3->T|T5->Zodiac 2->TX->Verizon Treo 700P->Verizon Treo 755p
RE: Maybe Palm will soon leak the specs, too
IMHO, too.
Giggle.
RE: Maybe Palm will soon leak the specs, too
Also looks like the 800w is somewhere in the ~.6" range for thickness. The upstage above it is .37, while the PPC-6800 is .7" inches.
Is 'ready' the same as 'done'?
== "What are we going to see with this new OS
== at the end of the calendar year?"
and he answered:
== "I didn't say you were going to see the
== new OS, I said it would be ready."
No kidding.
[I don't know when an archived recording will be available for this conference but encourage all to listen to it themselves http://tinyurl.com/3u4s25 ]
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plain looking
What's up with those 2 buttons on the side of the treo logo?