Analyst Predicts Palm Eos Delay
Morgan Joseph analyst Ilya Grozovsky has issued a new report that claims the long rumored Palm Eos/Pixie model may not be released this year as had been previously expected. This is the same analyst who just last week drafted a report on declining Pre sales at Sprint. The AllThingsD Digial Daily blog reprints some of the comments from the note with additional commentary:
"We think that the Pixie, which we believe is being geared for AT&T (T) and has a different form factor than the Pre, is not likely to be available for the 2009 holiday season, [...] We do not have significant unit assumptions for this product given the continued success of the iPhone at AT&T."
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It could be the 'delay' is permanent
RE: It could be the 'delay' is permanent
lol!!!!
RE: It could be the 'delay' is permanent
The competition is not sitting still. A castrated Pre may be overpriced from the get-go. Rubinstein already has a history of canceling Palm projects.
The Eos is actually rather unique for its alleged form factor. The only other QWERTY candybars out there either run WinMob or the ancient Blackberry OS. Presuming it has the same basic hardware as the Pre (Wi-Fi, GPS, OMAP etc) I reckon it'd be a rather attractive proposition @ $99.
That said, I've always thought it was a bit strange for Palm to be launching a second phone so soon. I figured they'd want the more-expensive Pre to firmly establish itself as their "hero" phone first and give it at least a year on the market.
In the end, though, since this analyst is apparently pulling this out of his ass, I'd still consider that leaked AT&T slide to be more solid evidence. Hence, more likely that we will see Eos before the end of the year rather than not.
RE: It could be the 'delay' is permanent
Of course, the delay may not be that terrible if Palm works to addresss the Pre's build quality woes and get a 16GB+ version to market. As SV said, the Pre is castrated enough as-is. The Eos will have to be quite cheap and/or have slightly better specs to make a substantial impact. Remember, we are anticipating an iPhone 3GS with 8GB arriving "soon" at the same $99 pricepoint (which should be a bloody battle this holiday season)
As badly as Palm needs SOMETHING else new ASAP, I'd almost rather see the Eos could arrive next year after WebOS & its app store have had time to mature a bit more and perhaps packing 8GB instead of 4GB.
Also, I'd still like to know how existing WebOS apps will deal with the Eos' screen that's reportedly a slightly lower resolution than the Pre. It might be in the best interests of Palm, developers, and users alike to keep the Eos on the backburner and give it a standard 320x480 resolution to keep from fragmenting their fledgling app base.
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RE: It could be the 'delay' is permanent
That is to say, no money in it for Palm so maybe such a device has been canceled.
Of course, if everyone was wrong and the device is MORE expensive than the Pre then this entire comment thread is invalid.
RE: It could be the 'delay' is permanent
RE: It could be the 'delay' is permanent
As you said, "you figure" - you don't do software development for a living, do you?
Nothing in Mojo points to real support for resolution independence.
If any of these mythical dynamically resizable webOS apps. appear, they will need some recoding if they use any hard-coded images.
BTW Freak, are these the same magical apps. that will support full-featured high speed 3d gaming too?
RE: It could be the 'delay' is permanent
>essentially $0 as the price that could be charged for a "cheaper" "castrated
>Pre".
If they sell the Pre for $99 to stimulate sales, they'll still need to offer a higher end model in order to generate profits (unless they're going to become a non-profit - LOL!).
If they're smart, it won't be a year until we see (at least) a 16 gig. Pre.
>That is to say, no money in it for Palm so maybe such a device has been
>canceled.
>Of course, if everyone was wrong and the device is MORE expensive than
>the Pre then this entire comment thread is invalid.
If the EOS (from the pics I've seen) retails for more than $99 when it's finally released, I'll be surprised.
If the Pre's sales are plummeting as they actually say, they can always rebrand it as the Palm EOL (End-Of-Life). :)
RE: It could be the 'delay' is permanent
Yep, the dude must be dead on.
Hey Palm! Where's my PDA with Wifi and phone capabilities?
RE: It could be the 'delay' is permanent
RE: It could be the 'delay' is permanent
I still maintain that they are setting the company up for acquisition. Streamline the product line down to perhaps a SINGLE model, have a much-hyped new OS, and still have their existing carrier agreements intact. There's gotta be someone out there still foolish enough to overpay!
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In other hype...
Mr. Grozovsky based his BS on the fact that Palm had not yet overtaken Nokia in sales of a future but yet unspecified device.
Blog commenters, already looking for something to complain about, grasped this "news" with both hands and claimed that they knew this was the end of Palm and that they knew everything. They went on to say "if Palm doesn't exactly follow in Apples footsteps, I'm never selling my iPhone to get one of their devices."
Palm shares were ambivalent on the news.
RE: In other hype...
Tim
Treo 270 -> Treo 650 -> Treo 680 -> Centro
Please, no replies from jca666us.
RE: In other hype...
Huh?
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