Palm SD applications and pictures

Posted By: Ryan Friday, January 12, 2001 11:28:24 AM

SD ApplicationsThanks to Brad Spry for sending me a link to a Japanese site (translated link) that has some pictures of Palm SD applications that were being shown at CES this week.

Palm chose to support the SD card for use in its brand of handheld computers because of the numerous advantages the card format offers, which includes compatibility, cost, data storage access and security. As an open industry standard, the SD Card is already supported by over 60 companies including Hewlett Packard, NEC, Pioneer, Qualcomm and Thomson. Many of these companies are already developing MP3 players/recorders, digital cameras and smart phones, which will be SD compatible. Because of the card's widespread industry support, it is expected to proliferate in the consumer electronics market and be compatible with a large array of products. Read on for larger pictures of the devices.

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Delivery Date

jzaring @ 1/12/2001 12:21:57 PM #
Does anyone know when the new palms, with SD capability, will be available?

RE: Delivery Date
Admin @ 1/12/2001 2:08:38 PM #
The Palm Vxc (the name is not confirmed) should be out in late Feb or early March of this year. It will have an SD slot.

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RE: Delivery Date
Rusty @ 1/13/2001 12:10:20 AM #
My guess on the name... the c500. It only makes sense with the new name structure of the m100. m=monochrome, c=color, and you have the 4 platforms, 100 series is low end, 300 series is standard, 500 series is sleek high end, and the 700 series is wireless... just my 2 cents of worthless soothsaying..

RE: Delivery Date
I.M. Anonymous @ 3/14/2001 12:19:04 PM #
The delivery date is March 19, 2001.


Trash

I.M. Anonymous @ 1/12/2001 12:54:43 PM #
SD is really trash. It's all encrypted which basically means that you'll either not be able to playback any MP3s on it or if you do transfer MP3s you won't be able to transfer them back.

Palm is just in bed with the big media companies and that's sad as it's just hurting the users.

RE: Trash
I.M. Anonymous @ 1/12/2001 1:29:04 PM #
Well, would you have one-way MP3 copying (desktop to card, put card in palm) with playback or no MP3 playback at all? And why couldn't you beam MP3's to other people. I;m sure you can do that. And you can use MMC (multimedia cards) cards with any SD device. And with a desktop SD reader/writer you can copy/delete/transfer anything you want.

Next time know what you're talking about before you trash the palm.

RE: Trash
I.M. Anonymous @ 1/12/2001 1:40:45 PM #
Also know that Palm sill support both SD (secure) and MMC (not secure).

RE: Trash
I.M. Anonymous @ 1/12/2001 2:33:47 PM #
"Well, would you have one-way MP3 copying (desktop to card, put card in palm) with playback or no MP3 playback at all? And why couldn't you beam MP3's to other people. I;m sure you can do that. And you can use MMC (multimedia cards) cards with any SD device. And with a desktop SD reader/writer you can copy/delete/transfer anything you want."

I'm saying they could do a MUCH better job and not implement something that the media industries approve (they only approve stuff that protects their cash flow). Sure SD is better than no SD but something like compact flash is still far better.

Also I'd be willing to bet that beaming of MP3s will not be supported. Even if it was it would take forever to beam even a 4-5 meg MP3. Have you ever noticed how long it takes to beam say a 300k document?

Actually I use my visor only for PIM functions so I'd really have no use for MP3 playback but it's still disheartening to see Palm hype up an inferior technology that's just meant to protect the media companies.

RE: Trash
I.M. Anonymous @ 1/12/2001 2:58:08 PM #
"I'm saying they could do a MUCH better job and not implement something that the media industries approve (they only approve stuff that protects their cash flow). Sure SD is better than no SD but something like compact flash is still far better."

Remind me to not invest in any company you ever run. What kind of logic is there in not working together with the media industry to implement media on the Palm? Of course they only approve stuff that protects cash flow, show me a successful company that does stuff that jeopardizes its cash flow???

RE: Trash
PFloyd @ 1/12/2001 3:09:06 PM #
Personally, MP3's are a low priority. I'm much more interested in GPS, Bluetooth and 802.11 ethernet... Having an MP3 player won't change the way I work or the quality of my life.

RE: Trash
I.M. Anonymous @ 1/12/2001 5:55:34 PM #
I bet your a *$%@#!, and all you do is complain all day at work, and you do absolutely nothing to improve this society, and you spend all day thrashing on people and being critical of everything that surounds you, quit your whining! You sound like my 6 mo. old baby when he's hungry.

RE: Trash
I.M. Anonymous @ 2/17/2001 8:13:19 PM #
First off, after that last post, it sounds like Palm Infocenter needs to implement moderation, to moderate down these troll posts.

Secondly, I think the overarching fact here is that Palm is late to the game once again. They were late to the game with collaborative web calendaring (and an app to link into web calendaring) and they are late again. SD... one word, Springboard.

I do not personally own a Handspring, however, I wish I had bought one. Here is a company that got all of this stuff right and implemented the first time around... and at a lower cost that Palm. It is still a wonder to me that Palm has the majority of market share. I guess people are really looking at marketing budgets when they shop for a handheld these days.

So whether it is Handspring or Yahoo that is beating them to the punch, the least Palm could do is save us, the customers, the agony of anticipation when all that lies on the other side is a hackneyed, slightly modified (and restricted) technology that Palm is slapping its name on. Get some original ideas or get out of the game.


RE: Trash
I.M. Anonymous @ 2/23/2001 1:04:25 PM #
http://news.cnet.com/news/0-1006-200-2364691.html">Handspring grabs retail lead for handhelds July 27, 2000, 1:30 p.m. PT

RE: Trash
I.M. Anonymous @ 2/23/2001 1:08:19 PM #
sorry didn't realize this board can't handle links...

Handspring grabs retail lead for handhelds
http://news.cnet.com/news/0-1006-200-2364691.html

-jan

RE: Trash
I.M. Anonymous @ 3/10/2001 9:00:43 PM #
What is SD and what are the pros and cons ?

RE: Trash
I.M. Anonymous @ 3/11/2001 2:24:35 AM #
if m500 has 2 sd slots.......

Are these for real?

I.M. Anonymous @ 1/13/2001 1:42:18 AM #
Are these actual add-on devices that will hit the market with the new Palms? Or are these just dummy mock-ups?

RE: Are these for real?
I.M. Anonymous @ 1/13/2001 10:54:20 AM #
I'm sure they are dummies and it will be a long time before anything working is on the market. So if you buy an SD Palm you'll be able to add memory but not much else for a long time. Visor is a better choice for now.

RE: Are these for real?
I.M. Anonymous @ 1/13/2001 2:23:32 PM #
I'm just guessing, but the SD card slot is so small, and we haven't seen this size devices yet, they definitely look like mock ups to me. Especially the GPS; I doubt this is anywhere near ready for release.

RE: Are these for real?
I.M. Anonymous @ 1/13/2001 2:26:19 PM #
Visor is a better choice for later, too. There could be a springboard adapter to use the SD card slot, as well as CF and memory stick. Personally, I hope this takes off, because ultimately it will give me more options for my Visor.

RE: Are these for real?
I.M. Anonymous @ 1/14/2001 8:53:11 AM #
They're mockups, and it's probably going to be a LONG time before they come to market.


Take a look at the plexi PalmV in the showcase picture - You see that well in the Upper Left corner? That's the SD socket. SD cards are about the size of your thumbprint, if you've got small hands.


Now take a moment to think about the Visor, and how long it took people to (barely) squeeze a camera or a MP3 player into a Springboard - Then remember that SD carts are something like 1/6 the size.


RE: Are these for real?
I.M. Anonymous @ 1/14/2001 5:19:41 PM #
For now I will stick with CF...
Besides being an "open" standard with multiple devices/manufactures and OS's... They have WORKING Modems, bluetooth, barcode wands, seial. In the pipeline are wireless (802.11u), GPS and maybe a MP3.

By the time these pritty looking SD cards come out with these functions we will be told there is a better standard on the horizon, not to mention some of our existing devices with a SD slot will be incompatable and will require an upgrade to work with the new SD cards anyway. (This always happens when desinging support for future devices that dont exist yet).

Phil
(my 2 cents worth)

RE: Are these for real?
I.M. Anonymous @ 1/15/2001 10:02:48 AM #
There's a working CF Bluetooth module? Really? where can I buy one? I love it. Oh, whats that? There isn't one out that I can buy?

Well I guess there isn't a real, working CF Bluetooth card.

RE: Are these for real?
I.M. Anonymous @ 1/16/2001 12:09:53 AM #
"Now take a moment to think about the Visor, and how long it took people to (barely) squeeze a camera or a MP3 player into a Springboard - Then remember that SD carts are something like 1/6 the size."

Well have you seen those sony laptops with a small camera on them that are the size of an AA battery? And sony already has a working camera on a memory stick. So these are possibly real modules. Cameras have become smaller and smaller and its an easy task for them to make it, i'm sure.

Compactflash please!

Eston Bond @ 1/21/2001 10:27:25 AM #
A CompactFlash to SD adapter would be nice so I could use a PocketSpider or the IBM 1GB Microdrive like the TRG. That way, you ould exchange files between the Visor, the TRGPro, and the Palm devices. Come on hardware developers, this would rule!

Eston Bond
CEO Pine Tree Software
http://www.pinetreesoftware.net/

RE: Compactflash please!
I.M. Anonymous @ 12/4/2001 12:40:17 PM #
This is why I bought the Handera 330 (formerly TRG). This Palm OS hardware supports SD, CF, has a higher res screen and larger viewable area. Plus is supports all Palm software and hardware.

Why SD?

I.M. Anonymous @ 2/1/2001 9:32:14 PM #
Why go with SD and not CF? Is CF not widly used by most handhelds?

RE: Why SD?
I.M. Anonymous @ 2/22/2001 2:47:36 PM #
Secure Digital is the same thing as SmartMedia, which is what the Casio PocketPCs use.

RE: Why SD?
I.M. Anonymous @ 2/28/2001 3:05:34 AM #
SD is _not_ the same thing as SmartMedia. See
http://www.palmsource.com/slides/Track%20600/601.pdf
for more details.

Good

I.M. Anonymous @ 3/11/2001 2:40:36 AM #
2 SD slots? I LOVE IT!

but don't forget handspring can have cel phone springboard modue. there would be celphone SD module? I doubt it seriously.

RE: Good
I.M. Anonymous @ 5/22/2001 11:35:24 PM #
Now who would want to use their Palm as a Cell Phone, althought its nice that Palm can do almost anything the fact the battery drain would discurage many users from using the Palm as a form of voice communication. Also as we have seen the Visorphone cost almost as much as the handheld it self, unless we're Bill Gates I doubt anyone would consider the usage of handhelds as mobile communications that goes for Handsprings as well, looks kinda dumb holding something that big up to your ear.

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