Quickies: Treo 270 and 90, NR70, Rebates, QPose
Walter Mossberg from the Wall Street Journal says the Treo 270 will be introduced next week for $500. He also mentions the Treo 90, with a color screen and no built-in mobile phone, for $300. Update: Cnet has the same info on the 270. -Paul Cedfeldt
Sony will not bring out a European version of the NR70, which is a NR70V minus the camera, according to a ZDnet article. -Ed
OfficeMax is now offering a $75 giftcard with purchase of the Palm m130 and a $100 one with purchase of a Palm i705. Office Depot is offering a $50 mail-in rebate on the Symbol SPT 1500. -Eric
QPose is a Palm OS emulator that is still in beta for the Sharp Zaurus SL-5500. It is based on POSE, the Palm OS Emulator that Palm Inc. developed. -Larry
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RE: Treo's next week
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I doubt the CDMA version of the Treo will be called the 270. Too much potential for confusion.
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Low-res misery
RE: Low-res misery
At least for now, S800 has an advantages of a color screen and nice design, but despite this, it's still a sucker.
RE: SonyEricsson S800 runs on PalmOS 3.5
Really.
Here are some other interesting facts:
(1) al Qaeda is a charter member of the UN.
(2) Benjamin Netan-yahu is a member of Hamas.
(3) Microsoft promotes ethical captialism.
(4) Paris is the capital of Belgium.
RE: Low-res misery
SonyEricsson's new phone is supposed to be P800 running on Symbian Platform.....
is the S800 a new model or simply that you got the wrong infromation....?
Alan
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RE: Low-res misery
Good.
Now wasn't that easier than listing off a bunch of stoopid "interesting facts" just to be a jerk about something so trivial?
RE: Low-res misery
Oh, that wireless is so nice to look at! Enjoy your ten programs that run in high-res, meanwhile in real life, people buy handhelds based on what they do, not if their screens are big enough so you can play ababall with a few extra pixels. Grow up.
RE: Low-res misery
10 programs that run in hi-res? Uncross your eyes and that number should look more like over 100. Your eyes must have been straining on that 160x160 screen for too long.
How ignorant can you be to think that hi-res doesn't serve any practical purpose? If you think higher resolutions (on a handheld or otherwise) is just for kids, and you being the "adult" that you are, do us all a favor and go to "Display Properties" in Windows and just knock that resolution slider down to 640x480 or better yet, how about 320x200? Yeah, I thought so idiot...
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RE: Low-res misery
I cant believe anyone actually buys Palm m515s anymore...those 160x160 screens are not pleasent to look at...not pleasent at all.
RE: Low-res misery
If Aesop were alive today, the fox in the sour grapes story would be a Palm user with 160x160 res.
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RE: Low-res misery
From Palm, Inc.'s "Zen of Palm" document...
"Usage patterns also differ fundamentally between handhelds and PCs. People tend to sit down at a desktop or laptop PC for a few long sessions, using the keyboard, large screen, and hard disk to create and edit large amounts of information. People generally use handhelds in frequent, short bursts -- more like a watch than a PC. They take a handheld out of their pocket or briefcase to review and update small chunks of information. For example, they look up a phone number or quickly check their schedule."
If your mobile applications require long sessions that emphasize screen resolution and multimedia capabilities over small form factor, ease of use and battery life, the problem is not the 160x160 screen resolution of most Palm OS devices. The problem is your choice of computing device. Consider purchasing a laptop computer or a Game Boy Advance.
RE: Low-res misery
for eg. one function of PDA is e-book and reading documents where good screen is important. Even if average user only use PDA to read a full page document, a high quality screen is still desirable.
With higher and higher quality screen more applications becomes possible in PDA. Anything from viewing detail pictures, finely illustrated documents, even moving pictures and actions games.
If palm is stuck in the era of "connected" organizer mind set where it insist all people need in PDA is to look up few address, than Palm will extinct.
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That's the design priority of a MULTIMEDIA device, not an INFORMATION device.
By its name, a design priority of an INFORMATION device should be the fast, efficient retrieval of INFORMATION.
Designing a device to record and retrieve information with as little effort as possible makes a better INFORMATION device than incorporating a high resolution screen.
Adding wireless connectivity to access large, remote information stores makes a better INFORMATION device than incorporating a high resolution screen.
Of course, the ultimate device is both an INFORMATION device and a MULTIMEDIA device. Microsoft's attempt to be that ultimate device has left a lot to be desired.
I hope Palm and its licensees continue developing INFORMATION devices first and MULTIMEDIA devices second.
If you prefer a MULTIMEDIA device, I believe you are looking at the wrong class of computing devices. Consider buying a laptop computer, a Game Boy Advance or a mini-TV instead.
RE: Low-res misery
And what about DISPLAY of said INFORMATION? If you can't easily scan/read/assimilate the information then it doesn't matter how fast you can retrieve it, you create a new bottleneck at the interpretion of the information making for a POOR information device.
Most people can retrieve a phone number from your basic $20 Casio organizer with the 10x2 character display quicker than from a Palm PDA, so you're trying to tell me that the Casio is the better information device?
All other things being equal, a hi-res Palm is a better INFORMATION device than a low-res one, period.
This "Zen of Palm" BS needs to stop. Palm themselves stopped believing that garbage years ago, I think it's time for you to let it go also. The moment the first person used their Palm to do something more than what the built-in apps provided is the day the Zen died. Color screens, 33MHz Dragonballs, expansion slots, keyboards/thumboards, communicators and smartphones don't agree with the "Zen principles" because all of these either decrease battery life, increase form factor, promote longer "sessions" and/or decrease the ease of use.
Just because Palm is inevitably becoming the "PC in your Pocket" (oh no, did I say a bad word?) and departing from the "Zen" that you hold so near and dear, it doesn't mean it's a bad thing. Don't be scared of the future, embrace it (or stick with your IIIx if it makes you sleep better at night).
ssummer
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-bigger high resolution screen means more information can be displayed at single moemnt (more efficient retrieval)
-Little effort implies most information displayed at single moment before screen state has to be changed. (ie. scrolling, opening new page, etc)
-game, television show are a form of information for entertainment purposes. Hence naturally in the future it will be a feature included inside an information defice.
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While we're at it, what's with this "Zen of Palm" crap. The purpose of a handheld is whatever the user wants it to be. You can easily figure out what users want by watching handheld sales. SONY is growing steadily in this area and certainly appears to have the largest percentage of sales growth of PalmOS handheld manufacturer. I'm not a big fan of the large corporations continuing to dominate markets (ie mega-SONY) but when they are clearly producing a better mouse-trap... they're catch more mice.
If users decide that mp3 playback is important, they will buy handhelds which have this function. The real "children" on this forum are the narrow-minded goobers who insist that handhelds serve "a purpose". This reality is different for each individual and the variety to choose between different handhelds (different purposes?) can only increase competition, while offering consumers more choices, and ultimately improve the market.
RE: Low-res misery
One of the major features of the upcoming Palm OS 5 is the native ability to display 320x320 resolution... so much for Palm's Zen stance on screen resolution.
Palm Os Emulator on Zaurus
RE: Palm Os Emulator on Zaurus
POSE Developer
Minor correction: Palm Inc. (or should that be PalmSource Inc.?) maintains POSE. Greg Hewgill developed it, originally called Copilot.
http://www.hewgill.com/pilot/copilot/
Almost there
All we need now is a flat rate fee for internet access!
How soon till they are available??
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Treo's next week
Treo 90 also expected for launch next week according to CNET.
http://news.com.com/2100-1040-921324.html?tag=fd_top
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