Top 10 PDA "Failures" Named
MLAagazine has published a list of their top ten PDA Failures. Over the past twenty years, there have been many false starts in the PDA business. Many companies released viable products that flopped, while others peddled mediocrity and flourished. MLA Author Flop made a top ten list of devices or initiatives that failed and shouldn't have.
The full article is posted here. It names Apple's Newton as the number one failure. GEOS based PDAs come in at third, which was worked on by many of the early Palm Computing engineers. It also cites Microsoft's Palm PC attempt as the fourth failure.
Thanks to Mike Cane for the tip.
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And the T5...?
RE: And the T5...?
Why oh why did Handspring have to sell out to PalmOne? They had finally created a platform of the future, and PalmOne is driving it right into the ground... Guess they made some money, that's apparently what drives companies to lose all hopes of innovation nowadays... Fat and happy because in the absence of serious competition people will settle for anything, even a Treo 650 with woeful memory or a T5/E2 with no vibrating alarms and several other backward steps for 3/4 the price of a laptop...
RE: And the T5...?
The world will end in 2006. Just as it was predicted in the bible along with the release of Microsoft Longhorn.... :p
RE: And the T5...?
Casio(256k)>Psion Siena(1M)> Visor Prism(8M)> TungstenT(16M)>T5(256M!)
RE: And the T5...?
Um, if you look carefully you'll see that the Handspring folks are the real folks calling the shots at palmOne - the previous Palm Soulutions Group regime has pretty much ceded the future of the company to them.
RE: And the T5...?
Funny, I was expecting Gekko to jump in with a tirade on the T5, but I guess he didn't have to. Have any of you actually used a T5? You know, connect via WiFi, run Blazer while listening to MP3s, swap cards, write documents....Did you know that it runs almost twice as long as my TT and has a fine display. I for one am glad that I don't have to waste my time with the slider anymore.>>>
Yes, I tried it. But my main point is that while PocketPC makers are unloading products that have the PDA community wired, Palm comes out with the tepid T5. It's really not a ground-breaking PDA, and in an age of ground breaking, that makes it a loser.
Poor research if they didn't even mention Penpoint
Penpoint: handicapped by the then state of hardware, smothered in it's cradle by Microsoft.
Cheers
...and the Sharp wizard...?
My experience with the Wizard did lead me to be an early adopter with the Palmpilot - as technology and innovation had finally caught up to the potential of a truly useful handheld organizer. Graffiti was the secret to efficient and accurate handheld input. Too bad we've come full circle back to keyboards only (and/or the horrendous Graffiti 2!) on many PDAs.
These devices may have been "failures," but only in the sense that they didn't catch on to the point companies made tons of money with them.
Out of their ashes, many of their innovations have been resurrected into present day PDAs ie: the lack of a vibrating alarm on the Tungsten 5 was an innovation taken from many early failed PDAs, the 16MB of useful internal memory in the modern-day Treo 650 is possibly PalmOne's homage to the "failed" WINCE "Palm PC" specifications.
RE: ...and the Sharp wizard...?
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I agree with you. Graffiti is just fast and easy to learn. I use Newton before Palm and it takes 1 sec to process each letter I wrote, and gets like 75% of the time only... Once I bought my PalmPilot, I throw away my Newton back in 90s.
Palm PC and Helio
Palm PC had a very bad UI (like using double taps everywhere) and was very slow in the hardware available at the time. Pocket PC had a better UI (more like PalmOS and less like desktop Windows) and was used in faster machines with more memory. Palm III and Palm V were not only cheaper than Palm PC, but they were also faster, easier to use and a battery life greater by one order of magnitude. It is a shame that Palm could not evolve PalmOS as fast as processors speed, memory density and battery life increased. Microsoft bet on Moore's Law while Palm bet against (remember the "there is no need for color displays" era?).
The Helio had great hardware specs and a good price, but the software was terrible. Bugs everywhere. They tried to get the comunity to fix the software for them, but it did not worked out.
Daniel
RE: Palm PC and Helio
http://www.ardiri.com/index.php?redir=helio
as a platform; it was great to program for - the devkit wasn't that bad to setup (but, you had to like gcc) :P it was very similar to coding with prc-tools for palmos :)
we ported a bunch of games and even the gameboy emulator - but, the general "applications" that were in the rom sucked. i still have two working helio units in my collection :) or, maybe i butchered one of them..
most of our games were free if i remember - vtech paid for a lot of development (namely the gameboy emulator); it still gets downloaded today :) so, there are a few using the device.
great hardware; good OS (had a real timer) but poorly written applications :)
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RE: Palm PC and Helio
The Helio was pretty nifty, it was my first PDA. It was fast, stable and had lots of free ebooks on the CD.
I've never used a Go machine, so I did not include it.
http://www.mlagazine.com/
Well, lets look at the HP LX
Just my 2 cents!
Find out more about the Palm OS in my blog:
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RE: Well, lets look at the HP LX
Pat Horne; www.churchoflivingfaith.com
RE: Well, lets look at the HP LX
I wish somebody maintained a public museum of these things..
I owned a Magic cap for a few months - They're not kidding about 'Big' - It's about the size of your average bible and a half-inch bigger, and ran on camcorder batteries - To the tune of about an hour of solid runtime on a charge.
I'm also kind of surprised that they didn't include the Franklin eBookman - some of the really hair-raising bugs it exhibited on release (complete information wipe with a gentle bump that broke momentary contact of the batteries) combined with the software problems (Microsoft never released the version of Reader they promised - the most intrusive DRM system, ever - a RAM-installed OS that required you to redownload it in it's entirity every time you wiped the machine - a 6MB OS download onto machines that only had 8MB RAM....) pretty much smothered this thing in it's cradle. It was a much bigger flop than the Helio, which actually worked fairly reliably.
1000->Personal->IRUpgrade->TRGPro->HE330->Treo 180
RE: I wish somebody maintained a public museum of these things..
>Treo 180
It looks like you're still using a museum piece.
Yeah, pretty much.
I still get pangs of nostalgia when using the 330 for GPS stuff, but I think I can hold out until the 650 drops down to $200 or so. :)
1000->Personal->IRUpgrade->TRGPro->HE330->Treo 180
RE: I wish somebody maintained a public museum of these thin
TRG/HandEra could have made the list as well. Sweet devices. Innovative. They had a lot to offer, and their "failure" was most unfortunate.
The REAL top ten devices that didn't deserve to die:
Here's a "corrected" list of the top 10 PDAs that should never have been killed off:
1) Apple Newton
2) TRG TRGpro
3) Psion Series 5
4) Sony CLIE UX50
5) Palm Vx
6) VTECH Helio
7) Handspring Visor (or more accurately, Springboards in general)
8) Xircom REX
9) HandEra 330
10) Sony CLIE TH55
Honorable mention goes to the Sharp Zaurus SL-C760 (actually never really lived in America. Reincarnated in Japan as the Zaurus SL-C860.)
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Sony CLIE UX100: 128 MB real RAM, OLED screen. All the PDA anyone really ever wanted.
RE: The REAL top ten devices that didn't deserve to die:
hey birdbrain - they're all fossils for a reason.
RE: The REAL top ten devices that didn't deserve to die:
Article translated into Spanish
http://www.canalpda.com/displayarticle279-flat.html
regards
Devices That Should Have Been
CLIE S320 with color screen
(don't throw the 320x320s at me -- they had lousy styli!)
A color HandEra with a shell that didn't look like it was done by high school design dropouts.
Xircom REX running PalmOS
(hey, p1, there's still time to snap up those assets from, I think it might be, Intel!)
Sharp Zaurus with slide/hide-away keyboard running PalmOS
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