Smartphone Device with a Folding Screen?
A Smartphone device with a folding screen? Sounds crazy, but it may be what's coming down the road from palmOne. According to the US Patent Office, two palmOne engineers, Rich Gioscia and Francis Canova, recently received a patent on a "Compact palmtop computer system and wireless telephone with foldable dual-sided display."
In application, the screen would be incorporated into a clamshell style phone that opens to form a tablet style PDA with a display that folds in half. In short, a Treo that turns into Tungsten T5. Imagine the possibilities such a device could bring to the mobile wireless space.
This product, if it comes to fruition, would address one of the biggest shortcomings of Smartphones; displays that are too small. A product that finally bridges the gap between Smartphone and PDA by combining both devices in one product.
The patent abstract states:
The present invention is a compact personal digital assistant (PDA) and cellular telephone with foldable dual-sided display. By utilizing flexible display technology, both a PDA and a cellular telephone are incorporated into one device. In a closed state, in one embodiment, the present invention corresponds to the form used for typical cellular telephone use (e.g., candy bar size). In an open state, in one embodiment, the present invention corresponds to the form used for typical PDA use by providing an enlarged viewing area. The present invention provides the benefit of two distinct devices in one device by allowing for common operations and functionality without compromising the respective form factor of either device.
More information on the patent can be found at the US Patent Office.
Thanks to Sammy at Palm Addicts for the tip.
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RE: All ya need is a foldable/bendable display
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RE: All ya need is a foldable/bendable display
RE: All ya need is a foldable/bendable display
Pat Horne; www.churchoflivingfaith.com
RE: All ya need is a foldable/bendable display
Palm have not developed themselves the folding sreen, nor are they going to develop it. Palm is not in the screen business, nor will they ever be, but they are trying to cash on the work of others, keeping the legitimate owners of the invention (the folding screen itself) from freely marketing it.
Moreover, they are trying to do so by just getting a patent an OBVIOUS use of a technology that is not even theirs: Hey, lets fold the screen so that it takes less space! Big deal.
Sadly, Palm is not the only punk in this town: there are countless examples of corporation patenting obvious uses of things invented by others, or even things not invented yet.
Like disgusting parasites, these organisms are just lurking in the tech ecosystem waiting for a healthy animal to pass by and then suck its blood.
If I had the money and the nerve, I could patent things like "Traveling backwards in time with an airplane in order to achieve a zero-seconds trip", or "Using a direct neurovisual connection to let consumers view movies and media".
Timetravel! Neural links! Wow, am I a genius!
RE: All ya need is a foldable/bendable display
* Too dumb to do a patent search when they develop a new product. (Yeah your engineering is good, but get the rest of your org. chart in order to run a company right.)
* Too cheap to license the patent holder. (Most inventors will work with a manufacturing firm to get a small royality for their invention so it is profitable to all.)
* Totally malicious mindset with no respect for IP whatsoever. (Typically they build it cheap in slave wage factories, make a quick buck, hide the revenue overseas and give a token settlement to holder of the IP if at all.)
And yes, a folding screen is a innovation in my mindset. Get soem time out of your petri-dish socialist campus and see what it makes survive on your own.
RE: All ya need is a foldable/bendable display
Sure, it is, but it is not Palm's innovation, but whoever's DESIGNS it. Palm are just trying to LEECH the real innovators.
> Get soem time out of your petri-dish socialist campus and see what it makes survive on your own.
I'm doing fine in my petri dish, thanks. What makes you survive on your own? Oh, yes, you're not on your own, Clueless Anonymous keeps you in good company.
RE: Greed
The world would be so much better without greed err patents.
Absolutely. Because, as we all know, the mere act of inventing is its own reward. Who cares if you never make any money at it?
RE: Greed
Yep. That's exactly how HOLLYWOOD was founded. Read your history and you'll see that the filmmakers ran west to escape paying royalties to Thomas Edison, holder of all filmmaking patents way back when.
Now they have THE NERVE to tell US to respect THEIR IP rights! Excuse me while I figure out how to BitTorrent...
RE: Greed
Without the profit motive, we would have nothing. Innovation requires R&D and R&D requires money from shareholders who demand an ROI.
Of course, there is attempts of abuse of the patent system just like everything else.
RE: Greed
Frankly, I see this patent expiring before the technology matures to use it. Remember, Apple took a nosedive in 1996 when most of the original patents that made the Mac unique expired. For example: multiple monitors for a single PC, a rotating monitor top and an automatically ejecting disk media mechanism.
RE: Greed
The patents that expired in the 90's were the patents related to the Apple II. The firm I initially worked for was sued by Apple back in the late 80's for alleged patent infringement of patents directed to the Apple II.
RE: Greed
RE: Greed
Mostly, people who object to the patent system do so because the Patent Office has a habit of issuing insane numbers of junk patents....
Now THERE is a valid, accurate criticism - one I happen to share. But the target of the criticism is not the idea of patents, its the method of securing them.
But the solution isn't to get rid of patent protection, it's to fix the system. No one should be able to patent the unpatentable. And if the U.S. Patent and Trade office can't handle the load, then they should get a budget increase.
After all, if innovation spurs the economy and good patents protect innovation.... Somehow I think that logic is lost on those inside the Beltway.
RE: Greed
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This rumor is ridiculous.
ALL THE ABOVE POSTS ARE FROM MORONS!!!
Cobalt OS supports multiple screens for the most variation of form factors.
Two 2.5 inch 160x160 screens placed side by side with a unobtrusive hinge would give you a 5 inch 320x320 without any new technology and low power usage while making a readable display that is already supported my all the software available.
You guys are so out their!!!
The foldable screen idea is not something revolutionary or special, it is doable and I want to see it delievered.
RE: ALL THE ABOVE POSTS ARE FROM MORONS!!!
You'd need *four* 160x160 screens for your plans....
RE: ALL THE ABOVE POSTS ARE FROM MORONS!!!
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RETREAD DESIGNS is all Palm is capable of anymore (T5, Treo
RETREAD DESIGNS is all Palm is capable of anymore (T5, Treo 650). DO NOT expect anything groundbreaking ever again. Palm is no longer capable of innovation.
And let me beat the Palm Apologists to the punch - "The mass public wants boring, high cost, basic design, and few features - ONLY power users want innovation, low cost, cool design, and many features."
RETREAD COMPLAINTS are all Gekkois capable of anymore
It would be nice, however, if he'd come up with a new idea himself.
RE: RETREAD DESIGNS is all Palm is capable of anymore (T5, T
If Palm is doomed, why are you still here?
Why waste time posting to an internet forum for a doomed handheld platform?
RE: RETREAD DESIGNS is all Palm is capable of anymore (T5, Treo
Because I use a T3 and there MAY still be hope for the future, fool.
Why do you continue to ask dumb questions?
RE: RETREAD DESIGNS is all Palm is capable of anymore (T5, T
RE: RETREAD DESIGNS is all Palm is capable of anymore (T5, T
RE: RETREAD DESIGNS is all Palm is capable of anymore (T5, Treo
the point was a patent for a mythical, vaporware, in-theory, on-paper only device is one thing - and actually having the talent, skills, and competency to build and bring such an animal to market is quite another. Any schmo like a 'captain hair' can scribble ideas on the back of a napkin. And this is the equivalent of scribbles on the back of a napkin.
RE: RETREAD DESIGNS is all Palm is capable of anymore (T5, Treo
RE: RETREAD DESIGNS is all Palm is capable of anymore (T5, Treo
Additional Information on 'The Inventors' (sic)
"Rich and his team are responsible for driving Industrial and Human Interface Design at Palm Inc’s Solutions Group, which designs and markets the world’s favorite handheld computers. Rich's group was responsible for development of the new line of high-performance, high-style Palm™ handhelds, the Tungsten™ T, Tungsten|W and the new mass-market Zire™handhelds. Prior to joining Palm, Rich was the Director of Sony's U.S. design office in New Jersey. He established the "My First Sony" line, led Sony to the No. 1 sales position in color TVs with the introduction of the Trinitron WEGA/XBR series and Projection TV line, and developed many key designs that built a $1 billion Portable Audio business. "
(bio courtesy the Management Roundtable site)
It seems that it is only since Palm stopped using the external industrial design firms, we've been plagued by the dearth of innovative and attractive designs that have 'legs' beyond the initial 'wow' of propellor-heads...
With credentials like the 'MyFirst Sony' line, perhaps it is not a small wonder that we have a Zire line that underwhelms many in the target market it was designed for... Yes, the pricepoint of this line brought more buyers from the target market, but I don't know any 30something women who found the Zire line appealing and necessary to their lives. The continued focus of palmOne on hardware gimmicks will only take them so far. It is the integration of well-considered solutions involving both software AND hardware that will win... As much as we complain about the past Sony devices for constantly deviating from the 'standards', they did consistently work on BOTH the software experience and the hardware/design elements to support the full experience with their products.
Mike
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RE: Additional Information on 'The Inventors' (sic)
folding treo?
But perhaps the good news is that they believe they will be existing in the future (at least to sue the desingners of the screen) when this technology finally arrives. Fine.
Now put those engineers back into the lab and have them design a Treo with 50MB or more of available RAM.
...And a build quality that doesn't require monthly replacements at your local PCS provider.
RE: folding treo?
But then again, lawsuits are a great way for inept companies to make business. After spending millions of dollars over the years fighting bogus lawsuits, maybe Palm now wants a piece of the action.
As an example, Be probably made more by suing Microsoft than they did selling BeOS.
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RE: Line
I don't know what was actually patented by the patent covered by this article (not interested enough to read the actual patent!) but it wasn't the idea of a flexible/bendable display...
OLD News really......
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