Rumor: Hands on Pictures of the Palm Tungsten T

yeah its very small, but NO virtual graffiti!!

that is my one complaint.

Don't forget that virtual graffiti would require a bigger backlight which would shorten battery life. I have a T615c, but I think I'm going to like replacing it with a smaller volume unit with hopefully much better battery life. And I can't wait to benchmark a few armlet code modules and see if they really run more than 20 times faster.

Also, VG will require a physically bigger screen, so the sized of the Tungsten will always be the same size as when it is expanded. I for one would be willing to go without VG for the sake of a significantly smaller form factor.

Having said that, I am still waiting to see what Sony reveals next. I have yet to make up my mind which OS5 device to get, but the Tungsten is the current front runner!

FBN

I totally agree with the argument of a smaller form factor. I recently traded in my 665 for a SJ 30. Some people say I'm mad. For me, I believe that a small form factor over rides the incremental speed of the 66 MH gained with the 665. Although the SJ30 does not have the bells & whistles, I find that MP3 and the other "stuff" is worth the giveup compared to the smaller form factor. Now, If Sony produces a new SJ series with an ARM based processor and vertual grafitti, and put a phone into it, people, I believe we would have the ultimate PDA. What do you think???

would definelty be a nice idea... although I would prefer a SD-Slot in my PalmOS phone

Just a thought

It's really not that small at all. Just take a ruler to an m515, and the dimensions are almost identical to the _closed_ dimensions of the TT. Open it must be as long at the Sony NR series.

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I wonder can the cover slides out itself automatically when the device is powered on?
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That would be
1 anoying
2 a waste of battery
and 3 just another thibng to break. I dont like the idea of mving parts on the handheld anyway.

Im even leery about mem expassion becasue of the moving parts which is nothing compared to this.

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Long live the "T" Series!

What did you expect? An inch less?
I mean compared to the m5xx series and the features that come with the new tungtsen, I would say it is small.
Even if it is as long as the NR series when extended, how often would you use graffiti? And would it be bad?
I mean everybody here seams to love the NR s, so where is the problem if something is as small as????

Just a thought

But is saving .1 in height (only when closed) worth getting .1 thicker than a m515, .2 thicker than a m500, Toshiba e330, or ViewSonic V35? Is it worth having more limited case options that will continue to make the unit thicker? We'll see... god knows I'll buy one, I buy 'em all. :-)

owned: Pilot 5000, PalmPilot Pro, Palm V, IIIc, m505, Sony T615.

> I wonder can the cover slides out itself automatically
> when the device is powered on?

Why would you want it to do that? The whole reason I think the slider could be a nice feature is that I often use my PDA with no need for text input.

>>It's really not that small at all. Just take a ruler to an m515, and the dimensions are almost identical to the _closed_ dimensions of the TT. Open it must be as long at the Sony NR series.

I admit i haven't measured the height of an m505 or m515 myself, but the dimensions i have seen list those units as 4.5 inches in height. Thats a difference of .4 inches between those units and the Tungsten T. The other thing here is that the Tungsten T has a D-Pad which is larger in circumferance than the buttons are (so it takes up more 'height') - thus, the sliding mechanism isn't here just to make it .4 inches smaller then the m series - its here to keep keep it from being .4 inches larger.

Hmm.. I measured my m515 again, and you're right, it's about 4.5" tall. I don't know what happenned with that...

>> I wonder can the cover slides out itself automatically
>> when the device is powered on?

>Why would you want it to do that? The whole reason I >think the slider could be a nice feature is that I often >use my PDA with no need for text input.

Yes, but how often do one needs to tap on the "Home" or the "Menu" icon in the silk screen? I think Palm needs to provide a software or hardware button equivalent for those two functions, if one wants to use the PDA without sliding the cover out.

To slide the cover out, it may solves the battery issue by using a mechanical spring. Just a thought.

Tony

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something i just realized looking at the pictures: the sliding cover would rip off any screen protector you put on the graffiti area. Right?

I love my Treo 90

Since when is the SJ30 smaller than the T665? It's just an illusion. Shorter, yes, but if you multiply the 3Ds the SJ30 takes up more volume than the T665.

From previous pictures it was difficult to tell what Tungstun T is like, size-wise. Now, looking at these photos it changes my mind about how successful this wil be. I'll wait to see it in person to make my final judgement, but it looks like Plam has got a winner here.

I'm Clié fan, but I like what PalmSolutions is doing. Built-in Bluetooth in a compact size. There may be better hardware out there but noone really has it all down to this size.

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Good point, it seems we'd have to apply two protectors to it; doesn't look easy applying one to the graffiti area. But I think I'm gonna have to get one of these babies next year; imo, The smaller the better. I trade off between using graffiti and the virtual keyboard now and then when one becomes annoying to use. So having the retractable graffiti part is cool. Very compact on the carry, quick and easy for input (using the vk). The thumb controller which consolidates the up/down left/right into one is a plus too; gamer friendly :-)

Can the device be turned on by simplying sliding the cover out?

Tony

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It is quite small but isn't that what we want?

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by the way, Can someone buy me a TT?

Oops - Just worked out it only says 'Texas Instruments Technology' under OMAP)) so nothing exciting there :( Need my eyes testing I guess.

Looks good. My Newton 110 has one and I like it.

The size of the new stylus looks great! It will surely make the sony stylus feel...well...inadequate IYKWIM.

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Phew! Whats that smell!?! Did someone Zire in here? Buy Palm stock...it's only a nickle.

For those of us who've been around since the early days, you may remember the DIY stylus for the Old Palm pros, 5000s, etc by a guy named Eric Handy. He used a radio shack antenna and the tip of a regular stylus. I made one following his directions- you ended up with a stylus that fit perfectly in the slot, had a much nicer, heavier feel, and then extended to over a FOOT in length, so that you could make it a decent pencil size (6") or use it as a pointer.

Gosh, I miss the old days...

oh man, that stylus is going to be expensive if you lose it!

The Privilege of a 22Km Tombstone

Someone please give me a link to the pictures. I can't read Russian!

If there was no way to play media, why would they include a headphone jack? Just to replay your audio notes? hmm...

"Ruskies"? :)

Besides the Memo Pad and Note Pad, there will be also Voice Pad.

for MP3 playing, according to my experience on the previous OSLO i played with, it needs a 3rd party software.... that means, user have to pay for their own MP3 player software. Will Winamp enter the market???

Winamp for Palm? That would be cool!

Would we be able to play mp3 in the background? I hope I can use my Palm while listening to the MP3.

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Probably Palm will do it like they always do.
Put in the basic progs and thats it.
But as we all know, a week after release there will be tons of software and if I remember right, there will be flash for palm. So why not Winamp for Palm....

Lets dream

Actually, I disagree. Palm always has bonus software. With the m515, you get Documents to Go, Avant Go, Chapura, Power One Graphing Calculator, and several other apps. It would make perfect sense to include a media player to help promote sales.

I wonder if Hand Zipper and Insider come with it too?

iTunes for palm- that would be awsome!

poop

my annoying little brother wrote the above comment and I don't know why he put it on such an old story. By the way the TT is way better than the TT5.

Perhaps the Oslo prototype did have a 175 mHz processor but for release they decided to back down to a 144 mHz unit on the Tungsten T? This was a Oslo prototype shown, not the Tungsten T.

owned: Pilot 5000, PalmPilot Pro, Palm V, IIIc, m505, Sony T615.

Although the stylus telescopes, is that as far as it goes?