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In this article PIC Editor in Chief, Ryan Kairer, walks through setting up and sharing an internet connection with your windows PC and the Palm Tungsten T via Bluetooth.
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RE: High COM ports
Why is there so much involved in what "should be" (or was promised to be) a relatively simple task.
And furthermore, is this going to get any easier? Can Palm release better BT software that will make this operation plug and play?
Palm Researcher at the University of Texas at Austin
http://www.edb.utexas.edu/petrosino/pda
RE: High COM ports
Purpose?
- Dan
RE: High COM ports
RE: High COM ports
I use the Tecom USB bluetooth dongle with a m505 and Bluetooth SD card. Other than getting this to work Bluetooth works great between the dongle/SD Card and my T68i.
RE: High COM ports
> Internet sharing and BlueTooth's LAN Access profile.
If you read the forum thread that is the basis of the article, it appears there is a bug on the Tungsten T that is causing resets when you use the network access profile with anything other than a PicoBlue access point. Not having a TT to play with yet, that's what I'm reading anyhow.
Still, this article is really the wrong way to set this up. Assuming there was no bug, you would, as you said, want to use the network access profile and Internet sharing in Windows. Even with the bug, any modern Windows (XP, 2000, NT) has built in PPP support, so Mocha PPP should not be necessary.
Ideally, you should just be able to pick up say a D-Link DBT-120 for $40, and follow the instructions in the manual for "Network Access Server-side Setup." Has anyone tried that???
RE: High COM ports
Anybody know how high of a priority this is for Palm/PalmSource to fix?
RE: High COM ports
Someday everything will have Bluetooth, and then the machines will mock us behind our backs....
FBN
Palm Bluetooth Compatibility Index
PicoBlue™ Internet Access Point
Red-M™ 1050AP LAN access point
EtherBlue™ Wireless LAN Access Point
Hewlett Packard 995c Printer*
3Com USB adapter
TDK USB adapter
D-Link DWB-120M Bluetooth USB Adapter
IBM Ultraport adapter
Toshiba 4010 notebook
HP ZT1000 notebook
iPaq 3870 PDA
3Com PC Card
Socket™ CompactFlash Bluetooth™ Card
Sony Clie Bluetooth™ MemStick
Widcomm Bluegate LANAcess PointP
* Printing functions are limited to the Palm Date Book, Address Book, To Do, and Memo Pad Applications.
Bluetooth Phones
Sony-E. T68i
Nokia 6210 (requires connectivity pack)
Nokia 6310
Nokia 7650
Nokia 6310i
Nokia 8910
Motorola TP270c (with Bluetooth Battery)
Motorola TP280
Ericsson R520m
Ericsson T39m
Ericsson T68
http://www.palm.com/support/bluetooth/bluetooth_compatibility.html
Bluetooth Networking for your Palm, Pocket PC and Computer
http://www.pdabuyersguide.com/tips/pico_BT.htm
PicoBlue™ Internet Access Point
The PicoBlue Internet Access Point (AP) is a Bluetooth wireless AP that provides enterprise, small- and medium-sized organizations with a secure, reliable and cost-effective solution for providing high-speed network access to users equipped with Bluetooth handhelds based on Palm OS®, Pocket PC and Windows® CE operating systems.
Key Features and Benefits
• Extended Range. PicoBlue provides wireless access to low-power Bluetooth client devices such as handhelds from as far as 300 feet (100m) and to high-power Bluetooth client devices such as notebooks from as far as 800 feet (250m) in open areas. Indoors, typical range is between 50 (10m) and 150 feet (45m).
http://www.pico.net/products.html
Today's mobile professionals need connectivity at home, too. This probably means competing for an Internet connection with the rest of the family. You can stay connected anywhere in the house at the same time the family is connected when you have a PicoBlue Internet Access Point plugged in to a broadband cable or DSL modem. With PicoBlue, the whole family can enjoy wireless freedom throughout the home on the platform of their choice -- handheld, notebook or desktop. And with PicoBlue, that DSL speed will be available over the air!
http://www.pico.net/home_scenario.html
Pico Communications technical support page
http://www.pico.net/support.html
http://www.pico.net/support_faq.html
Easy Setup. PicoBlue connects over Ethernet to corporate LANs and cable and DSL modems. It automatically senses the type of Ethernet connection (10 or 100 baseT) and can self-configure using DHCP. PicoBlue also is compatible with a wide range of client devices.
http://www.pico.net/compatibility.html
http://www.pico.net/download/PicoBlueQuickStart_v1.3.pdf
Palm Bluetooth support
http://www.palm.com/support/tungstent/
"There are 2 kind of people my friend....those with wires and those without"
RE: High COM ports
"Network Access Server-side Setup." Has anyone tried that???"
I should get my D-link BT USB adaptor today and will try it.
RE: High COM ports
RE: High COM ports
> my Tungsten T soft resets whenever I try to use a network app
Has anyone harassed Palm about this apparent (serious, in my opinion) bug? Anyone gotten a response on it?
RE: High COM ports
RE: High COM ports
RE: High COM ports
No, we just love taking the long way around simple issues. ^_^
-Mike
I sync, therefore I am.
RE: High COM ports
yep, it works on a m505/m515 with the BT SDIO card, just not the Tungsten. I hope we hear back from them about this, even just an acknowledgement of the issue.
RE: High COM ports
RE: High COM ports
> yep, it works on a m505/m515 with the BT SDIO card,
> just not the Tungsten. I hope we hear back from
> them about this, even just an acknowledgement of
> the issue.
Xian - I've got an m505 with a BT SDIO card and a TDK USB BT dongle. Do you know of any instructions anywhere as to how to get it working using the Network Access Profile? I've tried everything I can think of, but to no avail. The Mocha solution in the article works fine (one I disabled the DUN profile on my PC's BT services), but I'd like to use the network profile if poss.
Cheers
Alan
RE: High COM ports
I've the same problem as you did. How can I set up a Lan Access from my Palm to by Laptop?
The BT connection between my Palm and my Laptop is OK, but just don't know how to share the internet using Network connection.
Andy
RE: High COM ports
Cyan
What purpose does this serve
RE: What purpose does this serve
-Ryan
RE: What purpose does this serve
RE: What purpose does this serve
RE: What purpose does this serve
HELP - HELP ME UNDERSTAND
Can any one answer this -
can I use my t68i to dial an aol access # and then use my tungsten to surf the net??..and if I do so - do I have to pay extra ( I mean anything more than the airtime) to connect to the interent?? ( some fee per month or something per KB)
Thanks in advance guys...
RE: What purpose does this serve
RE: What purpose does this serve
Thanks in advance guys... <<
The T68i has built in support for HSCSD (High Speed Circuit Switched Data), which can effectively use up to 4 (I think) standard GSM TDMS channels in parallel. This can get a connection speed of roughly 38kbs in a good area. However, this rather assumes HSCSD is offered by any US GSM operator. I used this previously on Orange in the UK before they rolled out GPRS and it was fine; although I kept losing connections on trains (and you have to go through the lengthy dial up procedure each time). Under the contract I was using then, my lo-call ISP number counted as part of my free minutes, so worked out very cheap. However, under my current contract (still with Orange), data calls to a lo-call number *do not* come under my free minutes. However, GPRS is superior in every way, so haven't actually used HSCSD in ages...
So, to answer your question... depends if your network operator offers HSCSD (do not try connection over a single channel GSM line, 9.6kbs is painful!); *and* they allow data calls under their free minutes; then yes you should be able to connect via AOL.
Hope that helps.
FBN
RE: What purpose does this serve
FBN
RE: Which plan with At&t
RE: What purpose does this serve
RE: What purpose does this serve
RE: What purpose does this serve
RE: What purpose does this serve
What a great story....
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RE: What a great story....
Bluetooth for Windows
RE: Bluetooth for Windows
RE: Bluetooth for Windows
If you're in Canada, that's a bluetooth adapter for $75 (less than $50 US)
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RE: Bluetooth for Windows
http://www.compusa.com/products/product_info.asp?product_code=294015
RE: Bluetooth for Windows
RE: Bluetooth for Windows
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Palm Bluetooth Access with Mac OS X 10.2
"Share an internet connection with a Bluetooth device"
http://www.macosxhints.com/article.php?story=20021103062212288
Enjoy!
RE: Palm Bluetooth Access with Mac OS X 10.2
RE: Palm Bluetooth Access with Mac OS X 10.2
RE: Palm Bluetooth Access with Mac OS X 10.2
Sorry Xian. I need to learn how to read better -- in fact I agree with you.
duh.
RE: Palm Bluetooth Access with Mac OS X 10.2
RE: Palm Bluetooth Access with Mac OS X 10.2
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What do you think, sirs?
DNS Problems
RE: DNS Problems
Zuber
How is this useful?
Since the BT connection is being used only for internet connectivity(via PPP), you can't use this solution to HotSync your Palm wirelessly. BlueTooth has a limited range of 30ft, so essentially you need to be next to your PC to use this. In that case, why not use the PC?
If you need a greater distance for internet connectivity between your Palm and your network connection, 802.11b will allow a much greater distance (3-400ft. inside, 1000ft outdoord). The cost of buying the hardware (BT) for the Desktop, and MochaPPP, for about $100 more you could get an 802.11b connection that many would find greater roaming freedom.
I say this with some experience. I know little about BlueTooth, but I do use 802.11b with my VisorPrism/Xircom Springport and it's great. I can HotSync wirelessly to my desktop from anywhere in my house (or in the back yard). I can also load up Blazer, Avantgo, etc. and be off and running at much higher data rates than 115,200 baud.
I'm just curious, what is this useful for? What would your reason for using it be?
RE: How is this useful?
I also plan to use the bt hotsynch to synch in the morning. I leave my house at 5:15 am to goto the gym and generally don't leave myself enought time to get down to my computer and hotsych while I am getting dressed in the morning. Using bt, I'll be able to start the hotsych process right from my kitchen while I finish the last of my packing. Heck I could even start the hotsynch and then put the TT in my bag right way.(I don't want to keep the palm in the cradle all night and run some kind of automation file to automatically hot synch at say 5:00 because I'm afraid I'd forget to grab the PDA in my sleep state).
RE: How is this useful?
-If you have a small office, home or apartment you can surf the net, use an IM client, and email on your palm with a decent range (my adapter has a 100 meter range) live over the internet.
-Instead of sitting at a PC you can lounge on a couch or go outside and do the same things that typically tie you to a PC.
-Imagine a multiplayer online game on your palm handheld...
I could go on and on...
RE: How is this useful?
You still can hotsync, select modem hotsync in your palm, set your modem sync preferences to "network", select the service you created in network, enable network hotsync in your PC. Tap you hotsync icon in your palm and you are ready.
RE: How is this useful?
What BT USB adaptor you are using? Would you be limited by Palm TT range of 35 feet.
RE: How is this useful?
FBN
RE: How is this useful?
LOL! I knew there was a reason I was interested in this thread...
Jer 23:29
RE: How is this useful?
Hey cq
I got the first part about setting the modem to palm, and the last part, about "enable the network hotsync", but where do I find "modem sync preferences" so I can set it to network... I have searched around the Palm and Desktop and can't see where it is.
It would really be useful to hotsync via bluetooth, and so far with Windows ME, I can't do it. ( although I can surf the web using the method described in the article with a BT card and my 515.)
Thanks for the help
A Palm in hand is worth two in your pocket.
RE: How is this useful?
First of all, you should be able to HotSync wirelessly via a Network Sync. I do this all the time with Palm Ethernet Cradles. Don't see why this should be any different.
Secondly, I use my Xircom 802.11b to sync my Palm from upstairs in the morning while I'm taking a shower. This is because I'm too lazy to walk downstairs, put the Palm in the cradle, and then walk back upstairs again. :-)
Palm Researcher at the University of Texas at Austin
http://www.edb.utexas.edu/petrosino/pda
RE: How is this useful?
Those "why not use 802.11 instead of Bluetooth" are real annoying.
It's like saying "why not use your car instead of you bicycle" over and over again.
802.11/WiFi NOT the one-size-fits-all wireless technology
http://ragingbull.lycos.com/mboard/boards.cgi?board=PALM&read=44358 (adding: costs need to be updated)
Oner more time:
Bluetooth=PAN=small sized chip=cheap (see quantity)=low power=cable replacement (+ automatic synchronization)=supports voice right away=mobile (threw Telecom Networks: GSM, GPRS, CDMA....)
802.11/wifi=LAN=bigger sized chip=more costly=higher power=battery sapping=networking (no automatic synchronization)=doesn't support voice right away=not mobile enough (limited to Open Access Points/Hot Spots)
802.11 expert: "Bluetooth AND (not Versus) WiFi"; DIFFERENT TECHNOLOGIES FOR DIFFERENT NEEDS.
http://ragingbull.lycos.com/mboard/boards.cgi?board=BTOOTH&read=489
Are we done now?
"There are 2 kind of people my friend....those with wires and those without"
Which Browser?
RE: Which Browser?
BTW - WOW! Is this the first how-to since the m500/m505 USB fix article?
RE: Which Browser?
http://makeashorterlink.com/?L2ED12062
USB Cradle
Why not WI FI?
Bluetooth is fine and dandy, but what about a WI FI compatible device for conventional wireless networking?
I already have that running and I don't want to spend another $300+ for a Bluetooth access point.
When will we see one that's less expensive? Or better yet what about a WI FI sled? I doubt I'd buy an SDIO card since I'd loose my memory expansion.
D. Martin
Former Amiga/Commodore Author/Writer/Reviewer
RE: Why not WI FI?
I've seen a BT dongle for the computer for under $100.
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O/T Mod
I Love Tennis :)
RE: Why not WI FI?
You could still have your automation without being in the cradle. Check out Syncer at www.palmfreeware.com
http://www.freewarepalm.com/communication/syncer.shtml
I haven't tried it with BT yet, but works great in the cradle. I'm sure you get set the TT for BT Sync.
RE: Why not WI FI?
While I would have preferred the TT have WiFi, Bluetooth is what's built-in. As such, I'd rather use it, if possible, instead of WiFi. In my case (at home, at least) the range is OK. If not, I have a laptop with WiFi/BT that I use as a make-do BT "repeater" if needed. Works for me, and I generally want to use the laptop anyway, should I need more-robust Net access.
-Mike
I sync, therefore I am.
Why not HomeRF?
Why not ZigBee?
Why not WirelessUSB?
Why not UWB?
Why not Wires?
Why not....
"There are 2 kind of people my friend....those with wires and those without"
Update connection on XP and TDK dongle
Apart from pairing the devices, you only have to tip the box of sharing this internet connection with others in the properties/advanced window of the network adapter.
This all works great. I can now use my palm to browse over my dsl connection anywhere in my house. Don't have to go to my pc to surf the web.
RE: Update connection on XP and TDK dongle
RE: Update connection on XP and TDK dongle
Of course I tried the Network Access/ICS combo first, as I've used that for nearly a year with an iPAQ 3870. It doesn't work with the TT however.
-Mike
I sync, therefore I am.
Only for a Lan/Proxy setup?
What about if you simply have a direct modem/phone line connection to the net?
My Stuff... Win 2000 Pro lappy, MSI USB Bluetooth dongle, Palm 515 with Bluetooth SDIO Card,
Palm vs Iomega
RE: Palm vs Iomega
While it is true that the PDA could have an expansion slot, and be used as a USB-attached storage reader device, it's hardly it's main role in life. Additionally, it's possible to have a PDA and not a computer (though I'd not recommend it).
A ZIP Drive, alone, is utterly useless. It needs to be tethered to some sort of computer.
So, why again are you comparing these? I've had experience with both devices and would honestly like to share any info I have that you might find interesting.
Ick
RE: Palm vs Iomega
The reason I asked for information regarding this comparison is as follows.
I have a friend who is buying a new pc. As I am known by this friend as someone who tries to keep up with technology, he asked me for advice. Me, I have an old Palm III and an oldish Pentium III computer.
Now, I have been a long-time fan of Zip drives, and I have been rather adament about recommending them in the past. A PC without a means of sharing files larger than 1.4 MB is worthless (I know that the internet provides a means of file sharing, but it is still not as convenient as carrying around a floppy. Also, CD-RW is o.k. for archiving, but not so great as a means of portable filesharing).
Anyway, this friend's request for information got me thinking. Given that a Bluetooth enabled Palm device can potentially provide the same utility as a Zip drive, and given that it provides some much additional utility, why should anyone ever get a Zip drive (or somethig similar) anymore? I guess what I am asking is whether I shouldn't just tell my friend to skip the Zip drive and get a Palm device instead. The problem is that I don't know enough about how Bluetooth works and whether it is in fact easy to use a Palm device in the same manner as a floppy. I always figured this is something that Microsoft, and certainly Iomega, would want to make difficult.
RE: Palm vs Iomega
It's like deciding to buy a dog or a zoo to act as a pet. The zoo is vastly more expensive, and while you could count your animals as pets; they're not really, and the whole thing does so much more. Mmmm, not explained that bit very well -- analogies are supposed to make things clearer aren't they.... I think the ZIP/Palm bit was clearer (might use that as an analogy for anyone who's thinking of buying a zoo for a pet). Nurse, more medication please..............
FBN
RE: Palm vs Iomega
Someone in this forum said you can buy a 256 megs SD Card and a dongle for under $130 at buy.com
That is VERY portable solution and with Bluetooth you can even do without the dongle if you have a USB adaptor.
Solo
RE: Palm vs Iomega
RE: Palm vs Iomega
And one of the previous comments was also appropriate - virtually every computer you run into these days has some form of CD drive. I use 3" Rewritables for file transfer/portability, and 700MB CDRs for backup and other miscellanous archiving. I do use the 64MB SD card in my m500, but mostly only for books and such. It lives permanently in my PDA. I used to use it for file transfer (using an eval copy of SyncWizard) and also other programs but I found that the file system tended to get corrupted quickly, so I abandoned that idea.
Hope that helps.
Ick
How far have you got it to work from ?
I know that the Palm is only supposed to have a 10 meter range, so I was wandering if you managed to get a longer range when most of the traffic is being sent by the more powerful PC BT adaptor.
I assume radio waves sent by the Palm don't just suddenly stop when they cross the 10 meter threshhold from the Palm :) , so if the reciever is on the PC adaptor was particularly sensitive, a greater range may be achievable.
Zuber
RE: How far have you got it to work from ?
I am using a Belkin adaptor, and have bought a 3 meter USB externtion cord, which I have added to the 1.5 meter one that came with the Belkin.
I have the Adaptor 'Blue-Taced' to the wall that is closest to my bedroom (that the 13 meter as luck would have it) and just below the ceiling, with the adaptor verticle, USB down, and the stand up arial at 90 degrees so it stick out form the wall.
Using the Belkin, and the updated software from their web site, you get a power meter reading, I have used WinVNC and walked around watching the meter, via the Bluetooth and WinVNC , on the Palm. As soon as I move out of the house on the bedroom side, add another layer of double brick, the signal is gone.
But in the backyard I am still within 10 meters so I can use my Palm just about anywhere in the house, and in the Garden.
Hope that gives you some ideas, I can't say what the other adaptors are like, but I am very happy with the Belkin, but it did take a lot of fiddling to find the right position. (Note: keep it away from cast iorn, pot bellied stoves with metal flues, lol)
RE: 802.11 access point at work...
of the UK company that makes this device.
RE: 802.11 access point at work...
No. Not without some other device (if one is even available yet) to bridge those two different types of wireless networks.
RE: 802.11 access point at work...
http://www.possio.com/split.asp?cat=3&prod=wireless&dynfile=px20product&id=english&dh=3
RE: 802.11 access point at work...
-Mike
I sync, therefore I am.
I want my keyboard AND bluetooth!!!
Sorry if this post doesn't fit the subject of this article. Perhaps what is really needed is an acrticle "Using Palm with the internet" to cover all aspects of interent connection and use. Seems from the comments there is wide interest and questions concerning Palm use with the internet.
RE: I want my keyboard AND bluetooth!!!
http://www.mi-products.com/pda_accessories_notes.html
Then your serial port will be free for a modem attachment or something?
Gundam
RE: I want my keyboard AND bluetooth!!!
RE: I want my keyboard AND bluetooth!!!
There's no problem using your Palm Keyboard & BT at the same time - I do it myself to e-mail when travelling (BT to my SonyEricsson T68i). Perhaps the limitation you're meaning is if you use the Blue5/BlueM sled method rather than the SDIO card??
Cheers
Alan
info
RE: info
RE: How is this useful?
madhatter @ 11/7/2002 12:35:10 PM
"You still can hotsync, select modem hotsync in your palm, set your modem sync preferences to "network", select the service you created in network, enable network hotsync in your PC. Tap you hotsync icon in your palm and you are ready"
Hey cq
I got the first part about setting the modem to palm, and the last part, about "enable the network hotsync", but where do I find "modem sync preferences" so I can set it to network... I have searched around the Palm and Desktop and can't see where it is.
It would really be useful to hotsync via bluetooth, and so far with Windows ME, I can't do it. ( although I can surf the web using the method described in the article with a BT card and my 515.)
Thanks for the help
A Palm in hand is worth two in your pocket.
RE: How is this useful?
I got the first part about setting the modem to palm, and the last part, about "enable the network hotsync", but where do I find "modem sync preferences" so I can set it to network... I have searched around the Palm and Desktop and can't see where it is."
1) Tap your HOME icon.
2) Select your HOTSYNC icon.
3) Tap the MENU icon. (or tap on the upper left corner of the screen where you read HOTSYNC)
4) Select MODEM SYNC PREF on the options menu.
5) Tap NETWORK.
6) Tap OK.
7) Tap SELECT SERVICE.
Hope this helps.
RE: How is this useful?
6) Tap OK.
7) Tap SELECT SERVICE"
Great.... that got me started.. Now.. i set the local com port the same port the BT uses.. ( in this case com 5).. then I checked the network and local serial hotsync methods.. then it trys signing on and I get a PPP time out... did I miss a step?
Thanks for your help.. I'm new at networking..
A Palm in hand is worth two in your pocket.
RE: How is this useful?
I did manage to get a BT hotsync by using Mocha W32 PPP with the network and local serial checked.... that is the only way is seems to work.. thanks for the assist...
A Palm in hand is worth two in your pocket.
RE: How is this useful?
Slow News Week?
True simultaneous operation of Wi-Fi & Bluetooth
The Bluesocket Wireless Gateway is interoperable with all Access Point vendors and technologies (i.e. 802.11a/b/g or Bluetooth).
http://www.bluesocket.com/news/wg2000.html
http://www.80211-planet.com/news/article/0,,1481_856291,00.html
http://www.commsdesign.com/csdmag/sections/cover_story/OEG20020107S0052
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http://www.red-m.com/products/genos/
Red-M's 1050 Access Point - Supports both Bluetooth & 802.11b Point
http://www.red-m.com/products/1050AP/
802.11a chipleader Atheros with a 802.11a-Bluetooth solution
http://www.atheros.com/pt/ar5001AP.html
True simultaneous operation of Wi-Fi & Bluetooth....it's here.
http://ragingbull.lycos.com/mboard/boards.cgi?board=PALM&read=44372
"There are 2 kind of people my friend....those with wires and those without"
Clie & Bluetooth
I need help on connecting my PC and the Clie so I can do remote sync. I don't seem to be able to establish serial connection (it doesn't sign on). All I could do is file transfer. Any help is appreciated. I really want to do what is described.
RE: Clie & Bluetooth
If using Mocha PPP, make sure you disable BT client service "Dial-up networking & network access". Might also need to change BT serial comm port to another free one. BT comm port 5 did not work on my machine, changed it to comm port 4 and it started to work.
Serial access on a COM port
RE: Serial access on a COM port
RE: Serial access on a COM port
RE: Serial access on a COM port
RE: Serial access on a COM port
There is great hope. I found that most simply use a modified version of the Widcomm software. I was able to download one version that works with the Bluegears as long as you remove all Bluegear software, etc. To include removing the Bluelet device manager entry within Windows Devce Manager. I forgot this step initially, which would keep other software from working. It would not allow the USB adaptor to be available until you opened the bluegear software.
You can download the software from here http://www.tecomproduct.com. You will know it workd when you get several prompts after the reboot to install new hardware.
Let me know if you need any help with this.
RE: Serial access on a COM port
RE: Serial access on a COM port
Leave the My Devices section open when trying to connect from the Palm, and see if you see any change on the "Bluetooth Serial Port" device.
RE: Serial access on a COM port
RE: Serial access on a COM port
I've deinstalled the bluegear software and installed the belkin drivers but it doesn't see my bt device (TT).
_hickaloid
RE: Serial access on a COM port
Can anyone provide us with a detailed how to on how to have an hotsync through BT ?
I have tried to call Bluegear Support service, without any success... they simply do not reply nor call back :(
Thanks in advance !
RE: Serial access on a COM port
So, here's what I did:
-DO NOT INSTALL THE BLUEGEAR SOFTWARE ;)
-Download the Belkin drivers for the F8T001
http://web.belkin.com/support/download/download.asp?category=206&lang=1&mode=
-Install the software, and then right click on your new bluetooth icon in the taskbar. Select Setup -> Configuration.
-Click the Client Applications tab and delete the serial port from there.
-Click the local services tab and set all the services to Manual (double click each, and take the check out of "Startup" Do it for all of them EXCEPT "BlueTooth Serial Port" Make note of which COM port is set for the BT serial.
-Apply your changes. You may want to do a quick reboot.
-Now, get a hold of MochaPPP, and set it to listen on the BT Serial, and you should be good to go!
That was my hacked together experience anyway. If there's a better way with these little guys, I'd love to hear it. I'm on WinXP-Pro, so I'd rather just set up an incoming network connection for the BT, but I can't seem to get that to work.
Have a great one!
-Pete
Pete (tungsten@peteweb.com)
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PPP workaround and Versamail
Is it not possible to leave the Hotsync manager open *and* run the PPP at the same time? (can mochasoft and hotsync share the COM port?)
RE: PPP workaround and Versamail
Connect to web though a networked PC?
Any hints on what changes to make, or if it is possible, to make it work.
Thanks in advance.
RE: Connect to web though a networked PC?
Any extended range USB bluetooth adapter?
An extended range bluetooth adapter claims a 100m range.
Tony
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RE: Any extended range USB bluetooth adapter?
Power Class 1: is designed for long range (~100m) devices, with a max output power of 20 dBm,
Power Class 2: for ordinary range devices (~10m) devices, with a max output power of 4 dBm,
Power Class 3: for short range devices (~10cm) devices, with a max output power of 0 dBm.
http://203.147.194.107/infotooth/tutorial/radio.asp
Bluetooth Adapters
http://www.expansys.com/d_man.asp?cat=BLUET2
http://www.blueunplugged.com/shop/department.asp?Department=12
Examples....
Single Bluetooth USB dongle 100 meter up to 7 connections
http://www.thermalmasters.com/bluetbluetsi.html
Brain Boxes: Brain Boxes RS232 Bluetooth adapter with 100m range; Company now offers the full range of adapters to bring Bluetooth to PCs
http://hoovnews.hoovers.com/fp.asp?layout=printnews&doc_id=NR200211133600.3_a935000fc5ee8825
Brain Boxes Bluetooth 100 Meter range adapter: "This gives our product a tremendous advantage when looking for Bluetooth connectivity for office and SOHO environments. Bluetooth is very capable of operating over the same distances as 802.11 wireless networks, not just the 10 metre range many assume is the limit for Bluetooth".
http://www.unstrung.com/document.asp?doc_id=24278
Try google....
"There are 2 kind of people my friend....those with wires and those without"
RE: Any extended range USB bluetooth adapter?
http://www.bluetake.com/news.htm
BLUETOOTH ROUNDUP: Palm, Products, Reviews, Compatibility, Setups etc
http://discussion.brighthand.com/palmhandhelds/showthread.php?s=&threadid=18749
"There are 2 kind of people my friend....those with wires and those without"
Palm support not helpful on this topic
Just yesterday (13 March) I wrote to them specifically to find out how to surf the Web via my Bluetooth/PC setup. All I got was instructions on how to download the Web Browser Pro pdf manual. BTW, that's no help either.
Palm reseting when 'Pinged'
I have tried with both a Mitsumi USB dongle and a Bluetake access point - in both cases the problem is the same. I can get the Palm and PC (Windows XP Pro) talking, but if I try to access my LAN from the Palm I get a reset and simlarly if I Ping the Tungsten from my XP machine, the Palm resets ! The Palm connects to my LAN and authicates ok, it's just any attempt at access causes the problem.
I have succesfully got the MochaPPP client solution working - but to me this seems like a compromise. I have some questions
1) No matter how I setup Bluetooth on the Palm, I have to select a baud rate (115,000bps from the legacy serial drivers). Does anyone know wether Blue tooth on the Palm will always be limited to this speed (I believe the protocol supports close to 1Mbps).
2) I find browsing through WebPro to be VERY slow - is this a Bluetooth problem, MochaPPP or the fact that the Web Clipping proxy at palm.com is slow ?
3) Does anyone know a better browser that shows full web pages (even if they are unreadable!). Tapliner seemed promising, but it crashes under OS5 before I can get it to do anything useful.
Any help with any of the above would be oh so gratefully received !!
Thanks
Darren
PS Have been through the hoops with Palm support here in the UK - they have now suggested that I return the device for a new one - but I'm pretty sure this will not solve the problem.
T|T Reset after network connection.
I am not an expert on any of this, this is just an observation that I have made, and I will try to investigate further.
I HATE my Palm !
My PDA has become nothing more than a source of frustration.
The article doesn't work as, Palm support don't help you and so you're left with this "cool" thing that does sweet bugger all.
Problems with T|T
Tecom BT3034 for $29!!!
Windows XP Home
RE: Windows XP Home
Bluetooth file xfer and windows
Why go through all this? There is a shorter way.
Those fo you who are not accessing through a router, but instead are connecting directly to your cable/dsl modem, just enable Internet Connection Sharing through Windows. Also quite a simple procedure.
Those of you still using any Windows version prior to XP, good luck. I'm not quite sure if bridging can be done there or not.
Another benefit to doing it this way is that as near as I can tell, I'm accessing at best possible speed through my Bluetooth connection, rather than the mock-serial port speeds that I was, using the methods detailed in this article. It is still showing itself limited at 115kbps, but the improvement in speed is noticeable. Not to mention it is far easier to set up.
RE: Why go through all this? There is a shorter way.
"DNS lookup timed out. Please check coverage. Comm 8"
I am not using any DNS settings !!!!
Bluetooth troubleshooting
WinXP Home
Internet Access thru a cable modem
I have been successfull at setting up the BlueTooth network and internet sharing via XP. I can surf and get email (send/receive) for about 5-10 minutes and then something happens with the DNS and IP Addresses and the desktop loses it connection to the internet and then the palm. I followed the set up instructions from http://www.whizoo.com/bt_setup/ .
I have disabled Norton Firewall and retried it with the same results.
Thanks in advance.
Rdhfn
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