Installing Opera Mini on the Palm OS

It's likely just as worthless as Blazer 4 is. WHEN will the OS get a real native web browser???

Is FrankenGarnet just not up to the task??

"how did you get to the language part?"

Meny (Menu)-> Verktoy (Tools) -> Innstillinger (Settings) -> Sprak (Language) - (pick one then) -> Lagre (Save)

hkklife, haven't tried it myself, but I've heard from the people who got it running that it's actually quite good.

Besides, there's almost nothing that can suck as badly as Blazer 4.

rasty wrote:

" I didn't do anything special at all! I suspect crashes are random..

Thank you Java!"

Your blaming the crash you are experiencing on the Java programming language!?

Do you have any idea how ignorant that is!?

Until Opera tests out their software on an actual Palm OS device, there is absolutely no freakin way of knowing the root cause of the crash. Rest assured though, it would not be caused by the language it was written in since it was surely tested on many J2ME mobile phones before they actually deployed the product.

If you look at Opera's site, you will see no mention of Palm, which means they did not target these devices on this release.

So the next time a native Palm app crashes on you, perhaps you should yell out "Thanks Palm native C API's!"

Sorry man, don't mean to get nuts here, but it's just off base and as a developer, IMHO Java J2ME is the best thinkg to happen to PDA's and Smartphones.

Jim

Here are screenshots I took of it running great on my T3. I am also using it on my Treo 650, it is very cool running is Hi-res+ mode on the t3.

http://www.1src.com/forums/showthread.php?p=844550&posted=1#post844550

Also here's a link to my Opera Mini preview at palmaddict

http://palmaddict.typepad.com/palmaddicts/2005/08/17/index.html

scroll a few down to read it on the above link.

J2ME applications are device-dependent for many reasons, some of them pretty good ones. There are quite a few APIs that are optional extensions, not required to get Sun certification, and it pretty much has to be that way if there is going to be Java support for system features that aren't found on all devices.

The dilemma with Java is one that there is no perfect solution for: either you provide only APIs that will run on all devices from the lowliest cell phone all the way up to the most powerful PDA or set-top box (which means your J2ME apps are pathetically weak on powerful devices) or you accept that you need to allow expanded functionality for devices that can handle it and you break cross-platform compatibility for apps that use them.

Having said that, the IBM J9 VM that ships on the newer Palm devices really should be a lot more full-fledged. It's missing a lot of optional APIs that really ought to be supported on devices of this kind. I'm not sure what specifically could be causing the crashes, but the reality of mobile Java is that you really do have to test on a lot of devices before you know whether your code will run properly on them. Write-once-run-everywhere only works for really simple apps.

David Beers
Pikesoft Mobile Computing
www.pikesoft.com

Crashes my Treo650 too. Runs great when it does :-) Unfortunately it crashes randomly, apparently with no reason. Nasty thing is that after that I have to manualy delete it (using a file manager that will overcome some write-protection error I get trying to delete it normaly) and then reinstall it.
I'm an old fan of Opera and wished to have it on my Treo but this is way too unstable.

Handspring Visor -> m505 -> Zire71 -> Zire72

I tried it on my T3. I kept trying to change to English, but it kept crashing until I increased the amount of memory available to Java applications to 4mb in the Java preferences. Seems to be working very well now. Maybe this is why some others are having problems.
It is the only Palm browser I have found which will allow me to access my Lycos e-mail account, so I am very pleased. It is also a lot faster than WebPro. One downside is it only seems to work in 320x320 screen size. Looks extremely promising.