8GB SDHC Cards Now Available
It seems like only yesterday that 4gb SD 1.1 and 4gb SD 2.0 (aka SDHC) cards were released. But already 8gb SDHC cards are appearing in volume and free-falling in price.
Online e-tailer Newegg is listing a Transcend 8gb SDHC card for $130. Until very recently SD cards of this capacity were scarce and expensive, costing nearly $300.
As always, buyer beware -- very few devices are compatible with 4gb SD cards, even fewer are compatible with 4gb SDHC, and an even smaller number can handle 8gb SDHC cards. Recent high-end digital cameras are likely the only devices certified to handle such massive cards.
Palm has yet to make an official statement one way or another on their SDHC support plans. However, according to reports on several Palm-related websites and forums, 8gb and larger cards (all the way up to the maximum theoretical limit of 2TB) use "sector addressing" whereas 4gb and smaller cards use "byte addressing".
[via MobilityBeat]
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RE: Good to know
8GB? Wow.
Now if I could only get a Treo with more than a sparse and pokey 64MB RAM, I'd be all set.
SDHC vs SD
SD and SDHC - compatibility
A new SD format, SDHC (Secure Digital High Capacity), allows capacities in excess of 2GB (4GB to 32GB). SDHC uses the same form factor as SD, but compatibility is not complete in either direction. The SD 2.0 standard in SDHC uses a different memory addressing method (sector addressing vs byte addressing[5]), causing devices that do not specifically support SD 2.0 / SDHC to fail to recognize the memory cards. Making the issue more confusing is the fact that some manufacturers have produced semi-nonstandard 4GB SD cards. These cards are incompatible with SD devices that don't support the larger formats, and are also incompatible with many SDHC devices, because they don't conform to the SD 2.0 spec for High Capacity memory cards. As of late 2006, the simultaneous availability of non-standards 4GB SD and 4GB SDHC cards, and the incompatibilities between SD and SDHC have caused a great deal of confusion among consumers looking to buy memory for various devices.
The non-standard 4GB SD cards are the ones that work on Palms. There's no real need to do sector addressing on anything 4GB or below.
Palm TX + 1GB SD + Motorola v3x = awesomeness
*sigh*
RE: *sigh*
card support over 1GB on Palms..
Not sure how old your PDA is, but by now most of the recent OS5 Palms have been hacked for the FAT32 driver, and FAT supports up to 2GB...
RE: card support over 1GB on Palms..
A small correction: FAT inherently supports up to 2gb BUT some older/cheaper Palms are hardware limited to 1gb cards, with the OS 4.x models possibly supporting even less. I think a lot of consumers are going to end up so confused that they just take a pass at 2gb SDs, SDHC, etc. and wait for the next "major" standard to shake itself out.
Off the top of my head, I *THINK* Palm's devices have these SD card size limits:
(all of this is assuming a stock handheld w/ no FAT32 hacking etc)
512mb: m500, m125/130, T|W
1gb SD: T|T series, T|C, Zire 71, Zire 31, T|E & E2
2gb SD: Zire 72, Treo 600, Treo 650, T5, Tapwave Zodiac 1 & 2
4gb SD: LifeDrive, TX, Treo 700p, Treo 680, all WinMob Treos
Given FrankenGarnet's current limitations, the absolute best case scenario one could hope for in a "current" tech Palm OS device would be something like the T5, LD or TX with 128mb RAM, a 4gb internal flash or microdrive storage volume, and a FAT32-formatted 4gb SD card in the expansion slot.
Pilot 1000-->Pilot 5000-->PalmPilot Pro-->IIIe-->Vx-->m505-->T|T-->T|T2-->T|C-->T|T3-->T|T5-->TX-->Treo 700P
RE: card support over 1GB on Palms..
Tim
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Treo 270 ---> Treo 650 ---> Crimson Treo 680
RE: card support over 1GB on Palms..
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RE: card support over 1GB on Palms..
correction from a newly-m500-owning critter. Palm m500 can handle 1GB cards. In case you don't believe me, the evidence is here:
http://tamspalm.tamoggemon.com/2006/10/04/the-palm-m500-can-use-1gb-sd-cards/
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Don't buy it now!
RE: Don't buy it now!
>If you wait a little longer, not only 16GB will show up but the price of 8G will drop!!!
Why not wait for the 32GB or the 64GB? How about the 128GB or the 256GB?
Silly.
RE: Don't buy it now!
First hands-on experience with the 8gb SDHC
8gb in a single flash card is truly an amazing amount of space. I recall just 5 years ago struggling along with an 8 MEGABYTE MMC in my m505 and in my first SD/MMC digital camera.
Anyway, back to the Transcend: it locks up my desktop PC 's card reader; it's a generic internal drive from Newegg & approx 6 months old.
The SDHC card isn't even recognized in the 700p & TX. At least there is no card corruption by the Palm evices. Strangely enough, it doesn't click into the slot like a standard SD card does. The thickness of the SDHC card seems slightly thicker than a standard-spec 1gb Kingston SD but not as thick as my unofficial spec 4gb Patriot SD card.
It works flawlessly in the Casio camera and appears to be as fast as my previous 2gb Sandisk Ultra II SD card. Very nice!
I'll continue testing it throughout the week on my other devices to see if any of them are SDHC compatible. I'm not holding my breath, though!
Pilot 1000-->Pilot 5000-->PalmPilot Pro-->IIIe-->Vx-->m505-->T|T-->T|T2-->T|C-->T|T3-->T|T5-->TX-->Treo 700P
Compatibiltiy list
RE: Compatibiltiy list
I'm still waiting for the mythical color HandEra.
RE: Compatibiltiy list
RE: Compatibiltiy list
Tim
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Treo 270 ---> Treo 650 ---> Crimson Treo 680
8 GB SDHC Transcend Card works with the TREO 650
Text in German. 680 files had to be transfered to the 650 ROM.
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Good to know
It sounds like this 2.0 compliance is quite different, not just a matter of not being able to address all the available capacity. Is there ANY chance that current Palms (LD, T|X, tr7xx) might be able to make good, if not full use of these 8GB SDHC cards? I just tried a 2GB Sandisk SD card on my T|T3 (w/ROM update and DIA files, but w/o that FAT32 driver update that's been abuzz around these forums) and the full 1.89GB actually registers in the info screen. I haven't filled the card so whether or not this pans out is another thing entirely.
Finally, wven tho i don't use CF, I am excited to hear what's in store for it. Last I checked, we're up to 32GB for over several thousand $$? I am eager to see 64GB just for the sake of doing so.
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